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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Jack Pine nutjobs Swallow. [View all]

Fiendish Thingy

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30. To be fair, not all have fallen for Putin's puppets at JPR
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:33 AM
Jan 2017

Manny, for instance, seems to keep a level head, ignoring much of the rampant nonsense being spewed by posters opposing the "Deep State", claiming "Clarity" as their motive.

Unfortunately, many, many others, including some of the other mods, have fallen victim to a blind contrarianism that permeates the site rendering discussion of even the very nature of truth and reality impossible. If the MSM says the sky is blue, and some Putin sponsored "alternative journalist" says it is a green plaid, then for many, green plaid is the accepted reality.

Also, to be fair, the opposite of blind contrarianism is, of course, blind faith, and is just as dangerous. There are many here who accept the word of intelligence agencies who have repeatedly lied to us in the past, with no verifiable evidence beyond their own, often anonymous statements. There are even some who believe that the Russians hacked vote tallies, with no evidence, in fact US intelligence sources state the opposite.

Sadly, this confusion from misinformation/disinformation is a characteristic of the post-truth era, leading to either 1) blind faith when it fits one's personal narrative, 2) blind contrarianism when it doesn't, or 3) apathy out of frustration for those attemping to use critical thinking skills.

JPR could be a good progressive forum if it focused on spreading progressive values and acheiving progressive goals, instead of a lot of the nonsense that fills the site (at least the front page). There are some DU refugees there who are trying, but get drowned out.

Jack Pine nutjobs Swallow. [View all] Tavarious Jackson Dec 2016 OP
Ignore. elleng Dec 2016 #1
Alas, we're supposed to be nice to them now that they've come back to DU SaschaHM Dec 2016 #2
Nah, fuck 'em... SidDithers Dec 2016 #3
Yeah, no making nice with JackAss Radicals Adrahil Dec 2016 #20
Are they really that bad??? greytdemocrat Jan 2017 #29
Don't ask. Just go there and see for yourself. It won't take long. Hekate Jan 2017 #44
Hehe. They're all "Leave Russia alone!!1!!!!!11"... SidDithers Dec 2016 #4
Even before the exodus, this season has been a real lesson in how crazy the far left can be. DanTex Dec 2016 #5
Yes. I agree. Tavarious Jackson Dec 2016 #6
There are a couple of Russian trolls who were banned here who are members of that board Gothmog Dec 2016 #7
Haven't checked that place out in a while. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #8
LOL, exactly, and it looks like Schumer is no longer one of those evil Wall Street R B Garr Dec 2016 #12
They are the same as the right wing rag scum, they just have better vocabularies. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #9
They are fascists BainsBane Dec 2016 #10
Well Putin is paying trolls so they probably found their way there. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #11
They fantasize about watching a group of men urinating on Clintons face. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #13
Who the fuck are you? Ellipsis Dec 2016 #14
But saying "who the fuck are you" is not apparently. n/t TrekLuver Dec 2016 #16
Who the fuck are you? ...Obviously not. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #18
Please refrain from your low brow confrontations...it's beneath the dignity of this board. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #19
You have Waylaid me sir, You miscontstrue... Ellipsis Dec 2016 #21
But seriously RonniePudding Jan 2017 #36
Yes... I was bad, I knew Jackpine radical a little... Ellipsis Jan 2017 #37
thank you uppityperson Jan 2017 #38
You're welcome. Ellipsis Jan 2017 #39
This sounds like a scene from the movie: EPIC MOVIE TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #15
So I had to peek ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #17
Jack Pine nut jobs still licking Putin bootie Tavarious Jackson Dec 2016 #22
that's nothing new, sadly Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #23
They've had love affairs with Assange & Snowden for years NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #24
What's wrong with Assange and Snowden? Simply messengers. They delivered a message. snowy owl Jan 2017 #42
That's a barnyard byproduct you're shoveling there (see how decent my language is?) Hekate Jan 2017 #45
Boink Scurrilous Jan 2017 #25
Not much evidence of them here. HassleCat Jan 2017 #26
Meh. Some seem to have drifted back with new identities. Every so often I find myself asking.... Hekate Jan 2017 #32
Another example Lotusflower70 Jan 2017 #27
That place is the left's version of the internet sewer known as 4chan LonePirate Jan 2017 #28
To be fair, not all have fallen for Putin's puppets at JPR Fiendish Thingy Jan 2017 #30
blind contrarianism Dem2 Jan 2017 #48
I found out the hard way what a rootin'-Putin place JPR is. jcmaine72 Jan 2017 #31
Unfortunately, much of the Left has made reflexive anti-Americanism a core ideological value. forjusticethunders Jan 2017 #33
I'd agree with that. Ellipsis Jan 2017 #40
Also just to be sure forjusticethunders Jan 2017 #41
Becoming willing tools for enemies of liberalism.. JHan Jan 2017 #47
Pardon me if I suggest you are in denial. Have you read The Ugly American? Back to 60s I believe. snowy owl Jan 2017 #43
False equivalency Hekate Jan 2017 #46
. Ellipsis Jan 2017 #34
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #35
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