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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why draw a distinction between the working class and the white working class? [View all]progree
(11,463 posts)10. The white working class vote is also EXTREMELY VERY regional
This is from 9/30/2012 --
...poll conducted a few weeks ago by the Public Religion Research Institute in Washington, D.C., ... that poll found that in the South, among white working class voters, Republican Mitt Romney leads Obama by the astounding vote of 62-22 percent a 40 percentage point difference.
The poll defined working class as having less than a bachelors degree and being paid by the hour or by the job.
No other region in the country had anywhere near that differential. In the West, Romney led by just 5 percentage points among white working class voters. In the Northeast, he leads by 4 percentage points. And in the Midwest, Obama leads Romney by 8 percentage points among white working class voters.
The poll defined working class as having less than a bachelors degree and being paid by the hour or by the job.
No other region in the country had anywhere near that differential. In the West, Romney led by just 5 percentage points among white working class voters. In the Northeast, he leads by 4 percentage points. And in the Midwest, Obama leads Romney by 8 percentage points among white working class voters.
[div class="excerpt" style="background-color:#CEF6FE;"]So the margins for Romney over Obama in this poll were (among white working class voters):
South: +40%, West: +5%, Northeast: +4%, Midwest: -8%
The link [font color = red]WAS[/font] at: http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120930/COLUMNISTS21/309300041/1001/Joseph-Gerth-Polls-suggest-Kentucky-voters-gone-South?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CHome%7Cp
I don't remember what the title of the article was either. Oh well. I did some Googling but had no luck. I suppose I could try the Way Back machine...
I sure wish I had something like this for 2016
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Why draw a distinction between the working class and the white working class? [View all]
Garrett78
Jan 2017
OP
Because black voters vote solid Dem ticket regardless of any demographic subsets
HoneyBadger
Jan 2017
#1
HoneyBadger's reply clearly suggests that black voters can be taken for granted.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#7
Gore won 90%, Kerry won 88%, Obama won 96% in 2008, 93% in 2012 and Clinton won 88%.
HoneyBadger
Jan 2017
#6
So, black voters should just be written off as "ungettable"- while white voters who vote Republican
EffieBlack
Jan 2017
#37
Because they need to feel better than somebody and it's a tacit acknowledgment
elehhhhna
Jan 2017
#38
And we all know this. A white backlash has been building, as it has throughout US history,...
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#20
I'm nor interested in "winning over" racists. They're welcome if they change their tunes.
MADem
Jan 2017
#32
I agree. And I think it's worth remembering that well-to-do POC often get mistreated in our society.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#35
Historical injustice continues to impact the present. So, no, those owed are not all dead.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#46
I think this is an important point. See post #20. We need to change the narrative.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#22
I'm sure that the Republicans set out to claim those midwesterners. They succeeded.
yardwork
Jan 2017
#24
And she undoubtedly received millions of votes from working class whites. So...
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#15
But we must recognize that not everyone drawing the distinction is doing so maliciously.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#25
I think it is the result of that demographic being one that we got clobbered in. I think we need to
JCanete
Jan 2017
#28
Democrats already speak to the working class and win among the working class.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#29
I think they care more than you think. They are inundated by bullshit about who is making their
JCanete
Jan 2017
#31
I didn't suggest they don't care, just that white identity is a major factor for that segment.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#34
Only the white working class is lectured about their 'white privilege' by liberals
Dems to Win
Jan 2017
#41
Generalizing is being done by those suggesting all working class whites voted for Trump.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#43
A white person working for WalMart for $10/hour is privileged compared to a similarly situated POC
EffieBlack
Jan 2017
#51
Sanders positions was refuted a year ago, all PoC being rich STILL wouldn't eliminate racist effects
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#82
lol...somehow "us" insulting makes a fuckin difference?! That's a RWTP and not even close to reality
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#83
lol, that's like saying the justice system is not unfair to black people because OJ Simpson got free
JI7
Jan 2017
#62
It's a broadly used term, and different people will have, or not have, any intent behind it.
dionysus
Jan 2017
#47
It clarifies a political reality, like making a distinction between Evangelicals...
Buckeye_Democrat
Jan 2017
#59
I'm not saying you do. But that's what's so nasty about dog whistling and implicit bias.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#66
And now that I've read all of the Fusion article, I can certainly recommend it to others.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#71
Most Americans don't view reparations on the same footing as current problems.
Buckeye_Democrat
Jan 2017
#79
As I said, it's not an easy sell, but it needs to be done. The framing is key.
Garrett78
Jan 2017
#80