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BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
24. We live in a two party system.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 03:56 AM
Jan 2017

Our Constitution is not compatible with more than two parties in practice. For the sake of democracy, there should not be strong barriers to running in a primary. I think demanding that candidates pledge to support the Democratic party is a reasonable requirement (and would not be reflexively be opposed to closed primaries, though I havent thought about it enough to have strong feelings). Such a requirement is reasonable because it is a pretty low bar. If you can't in good conscious identify as a member of the party, perhaps you shouldn't be running or voting in the primary.

But Sanders did so. He ran as a Democrat, pledged to support the Democrats in the election, and made good on the pledge. Any rule excluding Sanders would have to require some long time period of party membership prior to the election. That would be a hard bar to running (unlike a pledge, which one can freely choose to make). I don't think such hard bars are desirable or good for democracy, in a two party system like ours.

Note that I say all of this as an enthusiastic Hillary supporter in the primary and the general.

Sure. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #1
I myself didn't START with (1). Not ever. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #7
And yet, your OP started with (1). yallerdawg Dec 2016 #8
I only mentioned (1) because I HAD to mention it Ken Burch Dec 2016 #9
Absolutely! williesgirl Dec 2016 #2
Absolutely. Nt lostnfound Dec 2016 #3
Fine by me. OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #36
Sounds GREAT. kacekwl Dec 2016 #5
No. Exilednight Dec 2016 #6
I agree but... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #13
Sorry. Can't fully agree with the second point. He should of course have been allowed to run. kcr Dec 2016 #10
Agreed. Justice Dec 2016 #12
No. Only Democrats should run in our primaries bravenak Dec 2016 #11
We need to also eliminate caucuses Gothmog Dec 2016 #18
Agreed about caucuses La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #25
Caucuses are very undemocratic Gothmog Jan 2017 #34
I can agree on those two things. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #14
Understood. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #15
Not a chance! The greatest flame warriors on this site live and die Rex Dec 2016 #16
No Gothmog Dec 2016 #17
Where to begin? NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #19
Great post Gothmog Dec 2016 #20
Yep. charlyvi Dec 2016 #21
Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #26
Your Bernie bias is showing there, Burch. charlyvi Dec 2016 #22
We live in a two party system. BzaDem Jan 2017 #24
We disagree. charlyvi Jan 2017 #33
YES, YES, YES! brush Jan 2017 #31
I disagree with part (though not all) of both points. BzaDem Jan 2017 #23
Sadly I don't think we are ready aikoaiko Jan 2017 #27
Ill be crystal clear: Bernie Sanders has absolutely no business determining the course stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #28
because y'all are doing such a bang up job? n/t HopeAgain Jan 2017 #32
For unity one suggestion: Everyone who disagrees with me shut the fuck up AngryAmish Jan 2017 #29
We lost and BOTH should move on HopeAgain Jan 2017 #30
Nope. Winner of the primary gets the biggest share of credit/blame for the general. Orsino Jan 2017 #35
Bernie doesn't agree. Nt BainsBane Jan 2017 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #38
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