2016 Postmortem

gordianot

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51. One that is not very secretive.

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The Soviet Infiltration into our Electorate is EASILY the Biggest story of our lifetime [View all] LaydeeBug Dec 2016 OP

It is not exactly a secret HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #1

again...the failure of the press too...utter failure. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #2

That it is "not exactly a secret" does not deny the premise of the OP. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #6

Your narrative is both old and new. Eyeball_Kid Dec 2016 #3

Welcome to DU. Thank you for the insightful post LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #4

+1,000 AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #61

Please continue to keep your eyeball on the target. longship Jan 2017 #78

In the grand scheme of things, Trump isn't even the real issue. forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #5

Trump enabled this...HE'S the HORSE the Trojan/Soviets rode inside of LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #8

very succinctly said and accurate. triron Dec 2016 #34

Yes, trump is the Trojan Horse sent by Russia to Destroy America... Cha Dec 2016 #45

It's big. It's bigger than people are understanding. But I think climate change--ruining the planet- femmedem Dec 2016 #7

There's no profit in saving the earth, and they conflate greed with intelligence. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #9

Climate change is by far the most important issue of today HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #12

Excellent point. We are heading to the point where feedback loops make the problem unsolvable StevieM Dec 2016 #22

Wow. 275 posts in 18 days. I am impressed. Welcome to DU!! (eom) StevieM Dec 2016 #24

Somehow I am having a really hard time being productive for the last month HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #29

I believe it is as well. Nothing else will matter when THAT shit hits the fan. nt m-lekktor Dec 2016 #33

how much is going to be done about climate change if elections are rigged?? nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #52

If we had a press that wasn not in it for profit this would not have happened libtodeath Dec 2016 #10

Whatever they did, they appear to have gotten plenty of help from our deep state apparatus ucrdem Dec 2016 #11

very true, and concerning...but we are where we are right now LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #13

The way they capitalized on Benghazi to form dishonest conspiracy theories is a unique evil StevieM Dec 2016 #18

Soviet? former9thward Dec 2016 #14

Oh ok. It doesn't exist then LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #15

Former9thward is enjoying being difficult lately. The other day he castigated me for saying StevieM Dec 2016 #19

And you could not name a scientist who backed up your claim that humanity was doomed. former9thward Dec 2016 #23

I apologize for not replying to your post. I should have taken the time to find links StevieM Dec 2016 #25

Read some back issues of Scientific American and learn something for a change former 9th shraby Jan 2017 #56

Well I do know better than you. former9thward Dec 2016 #20

+1 onenote Dec 2016 #32

Ok. You do. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #36

the communism may be gone, but the totalitarianism and secret state apparatus is still there. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #64

So we should parrot the far right's rhetoric from the 1950s.... former9thward Jan 2017 #69

i don't check with the 1950's first; i decide based on facts and evidence. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #70

Ok, watch out for that commie under your bed... former9thward Jan 2017 #71

reading comprehension, please. nothing you said relates to anything i wrote. nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #72

Coup: yallerdawg Dec 2016 #16

Coup: LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #17

It is very simple, Call trump and his campaign underlings in and put then under oath. UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #21

That's not "very simple" at all. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #74

The Rolling Stone weighs in (they are playing the cautiously dubious angle): jonno99 Dec 2016 #26

And yet, they bragged about it... LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #27

Yep. Still, I'm interested in seeing what the presidents full report has to say. nt jonno99 Dec 2016 #28

Don't agree with their triron Dec 2016 #35

Russian. The USSR hasn't existed for decades. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #30

That's why it's the biggest story of our lifetimes... mtnsnake Dec 2016 #31

It's true man I heard Trump is gonna sing The Internationale while being sworn in! DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #43

O-kay. So...the USSR is about to exist again quickly LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #37

Not really, no. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #38

I think 'expansionism' is the key here triron Dec 2016 #39

exactly...the hair splitting does not negate the larger issue...it is just deflection LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #40

the communism may be gone, but the totalitarianism most certainly is not. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #42

It has everything to do with the Soviet Union. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #47

It's almost unbelievable that they think THIS is the important distinction LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #55

I do think this distinction matters... First Speaker Dec 2016 #50

it very well could be, if nothing is done to secure our elections. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #41

Calling them Soviets makes us look like complete crackpots, John Bircher level. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #44

No..it doesn't...but splitting the hairs certainly does. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #48

Same entity, different labels and accutrements. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #49

I couldn't agree more Chernobyl Jan 2017 #67

I couldn't *disagree* more... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #75

All the irrational and vulgar statements in the world won't make you right about Chernobyl Jan 2017 #76

And all the normalizing the infiltration of our Democracy makes your rationalizing look LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #77

Nobody is normalizing anything, it's just a few people pointing out how stupid it sounds Chernobyl Jan 2017 #79

You're playing politics. They're playing war. Really. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #80

Putin has a mole in the White House! UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #46

One that is not very secretive. gordianot Dec 2016 #51

kick for visibility triron Dec 2016 #53

Agreed. Need full fledged investigation & if they mucked with vote counts, a new voting day mandated iluvtennis Dec 2016 #54

I'm still worried about the Ottoman and Austrian-Hungary empires hacking us jfern Jan 2017 #57

If one were to say that you don't fix a leaky faucet when the house LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #63

+1000 Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #58

k and r.. Stuart G Jan 2017 #59

knr triron Jan 2017 #60

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #62

kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #65

kick again triron Jan 2017 #66

Thanks for your post again. triron Jan 2017 #68

Thank you for your passion... LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #73

knr triron Jan 2017 #81

kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #82

thanks. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #83

If what you say is true why are the Clinton's attending Trump's inauguration? jalan48 Jan 2017 #84

The two are wholly unrelated, but I appreciate your attempt to LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #85

Not marginalize, just put it in a bigger perspective. jalan48 Jan 2017 #86

you make a false equivalence LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #87

No-it's called a logical inconsistency. jalan48 Jan 2017 #88

Not at all...but the false equivalence you INSIST on LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #89

Who is "they"? (the "Traitors"). What did they do that is treasonist? jmg257 Jan 2017 #90

knr triron Jan 2017 #91

+1 triron Jan 2017 #92