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certainot

(9,090 posts)
15. only one minor quibble,
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 02:23 PM
Dec 2016

i suggest giving rw radio the major share of the media blame, over fox. obama mentions it once in a while but generally the left ignores it.

for thirty years republicans have been able to use 1000 radio stations to attack and push the media to the right - and it was successful for intimidating and enabling the media largely because it has been ignored. limbaugh and sons need to be given credit for giving us trump

talk radio is the weapon trump will use. he is the talk radio president.

the left/liberals/dems and media observers mistakenly blame fox for the alternate reality but it's not giving the most effective rw propaganda operation enough attention.

there are a number of advantages rw radio has over fox

-liberals and media critics keep an eye on fox -fox can't do the unchallenged repetition of lies and distortions and attacks

-their hacks can't go as far as rw radio does with lies and attacks

-fox has to pretend to be fair and balanced and once in a while has a dissenting opinion (even if mild)

-fox hacks have to look into the camera to lie -there are free easy 'alternatives' to fox a click away

vs talk radio:

-talk radio has a larger audience

-in most parts of the US, especially those 40 or so red states with 80 senators, there are no free easy alternatives for politics while driving or working

-rw radio can be and is easily coordinated on the local level by GOP and it's think tanks

-rw radio talkers can hide behind call screeners and get away with calling bernie a "commie jew" and "if he was a teacher" he'd be screwing students (michael savage), or "obama's head needs to roll" - (limbaugh 600 stations)

- rw talkers don't have to look into cameras to lie

- rw talk radio talkers can lie repeatedly even after being corrected- they are much more impervious to challenge and to facts - hundreds of them can regularly repeat the same lies, sometimes for years, without correction or challenge - and they reinforce each other - limbaugh is reinforced by hannity and savate, etc., plus hundreds of other wannabes, all over the country on 1200 stations- if all those people can say the same thing over and over and never be corrected, why wouldn't it be true?

- there is no written record of what they're saying to study the patterns of repetition across the country- even on the local level the local dem candidate (or issues) can be attacked/ lied about/distorted and local dems have no clue until it shows up in letters to the editor as 'fact' or a serious issue

- media matters may do some national monitoring of national talkers for 'outragious' talk, but that's about it. stoprush etc. have been the only significant actions to counter RW talk radio but they were limited mostly to limbaugh, and unfortunately were criticized by the left (or trolls), while doing the most significant activism the last 30 years - directly challenging the leader of the right's most important weapon. unfortunately the left dropped the ball and didn't expand on it, and now we have trump.

-there may be a handful of liberals that monitor rw talk radio and write about it

rw radio gets a free speech free ride and that is why we have fox. fox is the visual icing on talk radio's lie turd pie. talk radio's stupid little brother.

well, that was cathartic... hlthe2b Dec 2016 #1
Truth is the best defense pscot Dec 2016 #2
thank you. that was refreshing. niyad Dec 2016 #3
Fucking A! busterbrown Dec 2016 #6
Ari fleisher said the same thing during the Bush regime Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #4
I remember that. He said Ilsa Dec 2016 #34
Right. Looks like the leathery, fang faced, fascist freak plagiarized Fleischer: Mc Mike Dec 2016 #59
Fuck you, Kellyanne dogface weasel! ananda Dec 2016 #5
You could bust coal with her chin. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #41
"You could bust coal with her chin." BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #62
Thanks! liberalmike27 Dec 2016 #48
KAC! DK504 Dec 2016 #70
haha, my sentiments exactly! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #63
I predict social media is going to drive Trump out of his freaking mind. Vinca Dec 2016 #7
Burrowing meerkats? Nonsense. Everyone knows that he is more into invertibrates... Thor_MN Dec 2016 #8
One of the antichrists is my favorite... pbmus Dec 2016 #9
Our stubby-fingered Il Douche, Cheetolini Pussygrabber is going to love his time in the White House MrScorpio Dec 2016 #10
I believe our country would be better served if.... Jacob Boehme Dec 2016 #11
Or working personal service in a small trailer out back. keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #16
... and taking a Ilsa Dec 2016 #35
"President Summer Squash" tosh Dec 2016 #12
"Now is the winter of our discontent Retrograde Dec 2016 #19
Don't forget... not fooled Dec 2016 #60
Oh my......... dawnie51 Dec 2016 #13
LOL, his pathetic advisers know Trump becomes unhinged with just the slightest criticism Skittles Dec 2016 #14
only one minor quibble, certainot Dec 2016 #15
We have another sh!t-brained former president to thank... gregcrawford Dec 2016 #21
And yet another one to thank for the Telecommunications Act Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #24
Yeah! I forgot about that one. n/t gregcrawford Dec 2016 #28
some people like to blame clinton and fox for the media prob but certainot Dec 2016 #29
Ph#ck KellyAnn and that dog she rode in on!!! Stellar Dec 2016 #17
Already Trying To Muzzle Criticism Here We Go colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #18
Evolution? shadowmayor Dec 2016 #20
Unless he stacks the courts with judges who are willing to wildly reinterpret the 1st Ammendment. nt Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #22
... and they'll claim to be strict constructionists while doing it. JudyM Dec 2016 #23
I don't see that happening. The Supreme Court, at least in recent decades, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #51
I really wish the media would go after Conway and all of her criticisms against Trump chowder66 Dec 2016 #25
Welcome to politics! This happens all the time. 7962 Dec 2016 #32
WE heaven05 Dec 2016 #26
he might hire the Scientologists to come work for the administration 7962 Dec 2016 #33
My letter to Kellyanne OldRedneck Dec 2016 #27
I can hardly wait to see your new website! mnhtnbb Dec 2016 #38
Love ur letter to Kellyanne - way to go! Many thanks for your 28 yrs service to this country. nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #39
you sir.... paleotn Dec 2016 #44
Wow just wow Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #52
Thank you for sharing your letter formalizing and following through with what we are all cornball 24 Dec 2016 #53
Please keep us updated NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #61
Pls. post your site address when it goes live. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #64
"Warning"? No. Threatening. btw, tRump is a stupid short-fingered vulgarian narcissist. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #30
This is typical of most on the authoritarian right J_William_Ryan Dec 2016 #31
What is she going to do if we say something she or Trumputin Ilsa Dec 2016 #36
Of course she'll make up some lie denying the truth and the deplorables will believe her. Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #50
He'll do what he does in his business QED Dec 2016 #37
Hey Kellyanne, do you fully realize that your fascists serial predator turbinetree Dec 2016 #40
I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her... yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #54
She is a fascist, and she got her money from one Robert Mercer turbinetree Dec 2016 #55
Are you kidding? yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #56
Here you go .............................. turbinetree Dec 2016 #58
Why, I am always careful. He speaks with the authority of a mud-splattering hippo fart. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #42
I tweet stuff like that to him all the time. And so do a lot of people. There are all sorts Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #43
Damn . . Richard D Dec 2016 #45
I dunno. He could always blame the meerkat. rug Dec 2016 #47
Hey, Kellyanne.... paleotn Dec 2016 #46
I agree, she and HWWNBN can bite me! Lifelong Protester Dec 2016 #49
Well this has been fun sab390 Dec 2016 #57
Hey Kellyanne Fitzpatrick Conway I will gladly give you my address and phone number Boomerproud Dec 2016 #65
Fuck Kellyanne triron Dec 2016 #66
LMAO Poking Trump with verbal sticks and watching him explode on Twitter McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #67
1st Amendment, jerk! muntrv Dec 2016 #68
Nope. Tell your boss to be careful. Orsino Dec 2016 #69
Funny how people who hang out with bullies start to sound like them randr Dec 2016 #71
This is what fascists do when they get into power. PatrickforO Dec 2016 #72
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