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2016 Postmortem

Crunchy Frog

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10. I wonder how Liz would do there.

Reply to Garrett78 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:17 PM

Dec 2016

She's from neighboring Oklahoma, and spent her young adulthood in Texas, so she probably understands the culture and speaks the language better than most potential Dem candidates.

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The surest way to get rid of the electoral college. [View all] Garrett78 Dec 2016 OP

Or generate a scenario where a Dem wins the EC vote but a Repub wins the popular vote. LonePirate Dec 2016 #1

That could do the trick, but Texas going blue would present a long-term problem. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #2

Very true. Plus a blue TX pretty much guarantees a blue AZ, FL, GA and NC as well. LonePirate Dec 2016 #3

PA was one DNC main stay... it'll be a fight but well worth it IMHO... there's enough exurban libera uponit7771 Dec 2016 #5

Dems definitely need to continue competing in PA, OH, MI, WI and MN. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #6

Not Ohio. This election proved Ohio is gone for good. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #19

I'm not ready to dismiss Ohio. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #21

I don't think Ohio is gone either... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #27

Obama won Houston by 1960 TOTAL votes... Clinton won that area by 167,000!! Turn Texas BLUE DAMMIT ! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

it won't turn blue without investment at the state and local levels pstokely Dec 2016 #18

Investment is key. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #20

If Texas is so close to being blue TexasProgresive Dec 2016 #7

I don't know how close it is to becoming blue but the demographics suggest it can happen. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

I wonder how Liz would do there. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #10

aren't there lots of Yankee transplants in TX? pstokely Dec 2016 #12

because statewide elections in TX are help during midterm years pstokely Dec 2016 #11

That would, indeed, make a big difference. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #13

+1, ... and midterms are gerrymandered and voter suppressed nationwide too uponit7771 Dec 2016 #14

All that we'd need is to win a majority of EC votes, with a minority of popular votes. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #9

Only until the South accepts civil rights for everyone will some of it turn blue again mtnsnake Dec 2016 #15

is VA not part of the South? pstokely Dec 2016 #16

No, it's part of Toronto mtnsnake Dec 2016 #17

VA turned blue because of minorities and people moving from blue states JI7 Dec 2016 #22

I think the potential is there for TX, GA and NC to become reliably blue. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #25

People from Texas need to pipe in here marlakay Dec 2016 #23

tRump only won it by 9%, Mittens did won it by a bigger margin in 2012 pstokely Dec 2016 #24

Northern Texas Wichita Falls marlakay Dec 2016 #30

The first reply was... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #26

The Lege and Gov would just split its EC votes. n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #28

Not going to happen... Rage4Bacon Dec 2016 #29

I'm not advocating for a campaign to get rid of the EC. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #31