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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What's so terrible about saying "the system is rigged"? [View all]Gothmog
(154,590 posts)2. Trump used this bogus claim to great effect
Sanders had no chance of being the nominee after Super Tuesday but continued his campaign which hurt Clinton. Here is a good example Sanders really hurt Clinton I am still mad at the number of times that trump used Sanders' claims against Clinton. Sanders' baseless charges that the system was fixed and rigged were used by trump to great effect and hurt Clinton http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rigged-system-donald-trump_us_5855cb44e4b08debb7898607?section=us_politics
And if Sanders rhetoric during the primaries started that stew simmering with his talk about the system only working for the rich, Trump brought it to a full boil with his remarks blaming undocumented immigrants and trade agreements that he claimed were forged as the result of open corruption.
The underlying irony for those who sought to end what they perceived as corruption is that they may well have elected a president whose record through the years and whose actions since the election signal it could be the most openly corrupt administration in generations.....
And if Sanders rhetoric during the primaries started that stew simmering with his talk about the system only working for the rich, Trump brought it to a full boil with his remarks blaming undocumented immigrants and trade agreements that he claimed were forged as the result of open corruption.
I think he was able to thread a certain toxic needle. But he did win, and were all going to pay the price.
John Weaver, aide to Ohio Gov. John Kasichs presidential campaign
The underlying irony for those who sought to end what they perceived as corruption is that they may well have elected a president whose record through the years and whose actions since the election signal it could be the most openly corrupt administration in generations.....
And if Sanders rhetoric during the primaries started that stew simmering with his talk about the system only working for the rich, Trump brought it to a full boil with his remarks blaming undocumented immigrants and trade agreements that he claimed were forged as the result of open corruption.
Sanders' bogus rigged process claim hurt a great deal
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The work I saw with the Clinton campaign was about registering to vote NOT GOTV
csziggy
Dec 2016
#56
There are two problems-first Sanders had no chance of being the nominee and the DNC did not fix race
Gothmog
Dec 2016
#7
You misunderstand - Sanders's entire point was that both parties were doing the "rigging".
forjusticethunders
Dec 2016
#34
How? Sanders lost due to the fact that Jewish, African American and Latino voters rejected him
Gothmog
Dec 2016
#14
Super delegates cost him the primaries - totally changed how the primary progressed!
Joe941
Dec 2016
#52
You assume starting out with a 700 delegate lead has no bearing on the rest of the race. It changes
Joe941
Dec 2016
#57
Are you going to claim that our economic system isn't tilted towards the wealthy, "rigged", if you
dionysus
Dec 2016
#11
It's not as simple as "the wealthy have more money than the rest of us". Never has been.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#17
It hasn't. Sanders supporters have been just as outspoken about the bogusness of Trump's "victory"
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#16
That's a lot of straw. By that turn, i could say liberals aren't president of the college
dionysus
Dec 2016
#23
What happened to our friend? Was the strain of this post more than they could bear?
dionysus
Dec 2016
#48
Actually, he made speaking out about racism a standard part of his stump speech
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#41
Another strawman-there are very valid reasons why Sanders did not do well with AA and other votes
Gothmog
Dec 2016
#55
Because it's mostly a backlash against things like a Black President and Women and others gaining
JI7
Dec 2016
#49