2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How are the continuing attempts to delegitmize Bernie's campaign NOT "refighting the primaries"? [View all]Gothmog
(154,214 posts)Relevancy objections are always amusing and it is fun seeing non-lawyers make such claims when the practical effect of a relevancy objection is to give the other party a soapbox to explain why the claim is relevant. The issue of the campaign for DNC chair is very relevant to this thread. The premise of the OP is that we need to forgive and forget Sanders and not hold Sanders actions against Ellison. Ellison's chances will be based to a large degree on whether a large number of Democrats who are active in the party will be willing to forgive Sanders' actions. I am not willing to forgive and think that Sanders actions are relevant to the issue of whether Ellison should be DNC chair.
Sanders had no chance whatsoever of being the nominee without African American, Jewish and Latino voter support. Sander continued his campaign well after it was clear to everyone that Sanders had no chance and many democrats will not forgive or forget this.
You made the rather amusing claim on another thread that Hillary Clinton was a weak candidate because she did not wrap up the nomination by April. That attempt at analysis was amusing in that the other Democratic candidates who were in the same position as Sanders dropped out because (a) they were actual members of the Democratic Party and (b) these Democrats cared about the party. Sanders continued his campaign long after he had no chance and that hurt the party and the general election chances. Sanders is now running as an indie for Senate and his conduct during the primary and convention process cast doubts on whether he cares about the Democratic Party. I am not alone in my views on Sanders.
I am not alone in holding Sanders responsible in part for the loss. This is from one DNC member http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/keith-ellison-democratic-dnc-232613
Ellison is not the front-runner, Ellison has no chance at all, said Tennessee committeeman William Owen, giving voice to that view. Im a Hillary person. Bill Clinton said, 'Ill be with you till the last dog dies,' and Im the last dog. I will not vote for Keith Ellison, I will not vote for a Bernie person. I think they cost Hillary the election, and now theyre going to live with Donald Trump. Donald Trump asks, 'What do you have to lose? Nothing, except life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
Luckily that above person is a member of the DNC and will get to vote on the new chair. Again, I and others will not be happy with a Sanders supporter as DNC chair and so I reject the premise of the OP.