Someone sent me the video of Bernie's hour-long town hall in Wisconsin

[JCanete]

77. Sanders is speaking to people who aren't going to respond to those things that you want him to say.

I disagree that some of them are the main cause of Clinton's loss anyway, and I certainly disagree with you, if you think we don't need to stop courting corporate interests. Its stupid unless we're okay with being the minority party. They and their media destroy us every time, even though we keep trying to be friends.

All this shit about Russia is silly unless they hacked our elections, or unless Trump truly committed treason by colluding with a foreign government to help get him elected, because they simply don't have the power to affect our "opinions" about our candidates. That honor rests in the hands of our very own media, and we know how they behaved...the way they fucking always do. You are right, Clinton's message was drowned out, period. Maybe it's time the DNC stop trying to work with the people who are going to screw them in the end? Maybe stop playing their game? Quit helping them to manufacture an illusion of democracy already?


The people Sanders is speaking to may in-fact be racist, and certainly present as far as their willingness to overlook things that should be beyond the pale for a President of the United States to say when it comes to harming marginalized populations, but your insistence that we either A) don't talk to them, or B) try to get through to them by calling them racists, rather than, I don't know, pulling at the threads that can actually be pulled at, and start eroding that racism, AND that mistrust for Democratic policy, is quite frankly absurd and must come with a very real belief that you don't think people are capable of changing...that they are lost causes.

There is no reason for him to sit in a room with people and to assume the worst of them. His objective is the "generous read." Honestly, our objective should be the generous read. Assume that their reasons are not what you think. Even people who are in-fact racist are using some sort of logic to reinforce their racism. They think they are good people and they want to be good people and the thing that we need to do is to say, "Hey, I know you're a decent person. I know you think this is good for you and your family, and society at large. But lets look at this together. Did you know this thing? How about this thing?"

Your preferred approach is one in which we just take bricks and pile them up...building that fucking wall between us. Well that isn't going to work out for us. We're going to continue to lose that battle. There are two sides. the corporations, and the people. We know which side the Republican establishment is on. The problem is the Democratic establishment is on neither. It wants to play arbitrator. We very much need it on our side already, but instead it doesn't want to point at the big money or the corporate media....it wants to point to Russia and the deplorables. It actually prefers us to fight amongst ourselves, rather than to mess with that third rail that's still giving their train a boost.