2016 Postmortem

BeyondGeography

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34. Here's another example why you can't trust polls

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:31 PM

Dec 2016

WaPo had her up 20 points among college educated white women in their last poll:

The largest shift in vote support from 2012 is among white college graduates, a group Democrats have not won at the presidential election in any contest since at least 1980. Clinton leads Trump by 49 to 40 percent among this group, fueled by a 56-36 percent margin among white women with college degrees. Trump nearly balances out those losses with a large, 34-point lead among all white voters without college degrees (63 to 29 percent), a group Romney won by a 25-point margin four years ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/07/post-abc-tracking-poll-clinton-47-trump-43-on-election-eve/?utm_term=.350de04e9e96

When the campaign said college-educated voters didn't come through as expected this is what they were talking about. I wonder how many of these voters were no-shows.

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The Sexism this Cycle just about killed my Brain [View all] bravenak Dec 2016 OP

Agree 100%. The sexism was SO obvious, stopbush Dec 2016 #1

That thing too bravenak Dec 2016 #2

In retrospect, Trump was brilliant in being overtly misogynistic stopbush Dec 2016 #8

It worked like a damn charm bravenak Dec 2016 #13

The facts regarding what the pig did and said... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #10

You are so right bravenak Dec 2016 #14

You're dead on, as usual EffieBlack Dec 2016 #3

You feel me. This shit was outrageous. I still have not processed it all bravenak Dec 2016 #4

My friend. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #5

I know. It was KILLING ME. bravenak Dec 2016 #7

It's made me take stock and consider who the real allies were this cycle. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #6

Oh yes. Some women too are put right in the untrustworthy box right along with the men bravenak Dec 2016 #9

I agree, that was eye-opening too. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #11

Some are gone, thank gawd bravenak Dec 2016 #16

Most of them believe we are in a post sexist post racist America.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #52

The worse shit gets the more they want to fuck shit up even more bravenak Dec 2016 #53

Internalised misogyny is definitely a real thing. JHan Dec 2016 #15

Self hate sux bravenak Dec 2016 #17

The women hurt me the most. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30

Me too bravenak Dec 2016 #36

And time and again from the left "Racism is why she lost" JenniferJuniper Dec 2016 #12

I heard her called a nword lover all the way up here bravenak Dec 2016 #18

the fk???? JHan Dec 2016 #19

It's like, worse than BEING black, apparently bravenak Dec 2016 #20

But................ guillaumeb Dec 2016 #21

We know better than to believe his bullshit because we face racism bravenak Dec 2016 #22

Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #25

They will hate that too bravenak Dec 2016 #27

Non-college educated white women were the problem BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #26

Thanks Comey! *SMDH* JHan Dec 2016 #31

Here's another example why you can't trust polls BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #34

Unfortunately, with the way the election ended up, it will probably get even worse. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #23

Think it just means we have to fight back harder bravenak Dec 2016 #24

Yes we must, and yes we will. We have some very good possible candidates for 2020 mtnsnake Dec 2016 #42

I know who knows... dionysus Dec 2016 #58

The sickest display of sexism was the obsession with her appearance and what she was "Hiding" JHan Dec 2016 #28

Oh fuck yeah bravenak Dec 2016 #29

Agree on a lot.. but the earpiece?! Whats sexist about that? DU, if you recall, was hell dionysus Dec 2016 #60

Oh I wasn't around much then, only joined September.. JHan Dec 2016 #71

I didnt see the hillary thing, but DUers were scouring debate pics and footage, dionysus Dec 2016 #73

I Wouldn't Fuck Her otohara Dec 2016 #75

The same type that told me I only supported her because I have a vagina.. JHan Dec 2016 #78

You should have asked if they would've preferred to fuck Trump whathehell Dec 2016 #86

yup handmade34 Dec 2016 #32

Yep. How about those who wouldn't vote for HRC but would for Biden (re IWR) grossproffit Dec 2016 #33

Insanity. They still say shit like that bravenak Dec 2016 #38

Just like the Edwards and Kerry supporters. JTFrog Dec 2016 #69

Oh yeah mcar Dec 2016 #83

sexism is the oldest human hierarchy; it is very resistant to change, and like fish don't see the TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #35

It kills me from women bravenak Dec 2016 #40

Thank you, bravenak, pnwmom Dec 2016 #37

Hey! bravenak Dec 2016 #39

Sing it! brer cat Dec 2016 #41

I put a bunch of folks on ignore and most of them are banned now bravenak Dec 2016 #46

the whole damned "trust" bullshit. mopinko Dec 2016 #43

I almost feel like we are starting all over again bravenak Dec 2016 #44

I think the cultural poverty is a big thing. betsuni Dec 2016 #64

Your writing is great, actually bravenak Dec 2016 #65

Thanks. betsuni Dec 2016 #66

The sexism from the other side is truly brain breaking, but worse is the Democrats who keep saying, Squinch Dec 2016 #45

Yes, that too bravenak Dec 2016 #47

sadly, you are absolutely correct. and the denial of that sexism hurts the brain as well. niyad Dec 2016 #48

The denial is what makes me bang my head on the wall bravenak Dec 2016 #49

that is bad for your head. it doesn't hurt nearly so much if you use other people's heads. niyad Dec 2016 #50

I need a list like Arya bravenak Dec 2016 #51

Most everyone here supported a woman for president IronLionZion Dec 2016 #54

Thats the sickest part bravenak Dec 2016 #55

Don't forget the F word Maven Dec 2016 #56

Yep. You had to say she was bad or else bravenak Dec 2016 #62

Come for the sexism... tonedevil Dec 2016 #57

It was straight up bullshit bravenak Dec 2016 #63

she was booed at her own Convention during her acceptance speech JI7 Dec 2016 #59

It was fucked and and it shows exactly what type of people we should never let get any power bravenak Dec 2016 #61

King's also have coronations, They're just called Kings. That had nothing to do with Clinton being JCanete Dec 2016 #67

You know there is much upon which we do not agree Uponthegears Dec 2016 #68

Thank you so much for this post bravenak Dec 2016 #79

Yep. I have to admit that I am really disgusted and disappointed. JTFrog Dec 2016 #70

It was cruel what they did bravenak Dec 2016 #74

Yes, yes, yes! mcar Dec 2016 #72

My response to Obama did it.... Fresh_Start Dec 2016 #76

Shirley Chisholm was dead on bravenak Dec 2016 #77

Mine too! Useless in FL Dec 2016 #80

Yup ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #81

It was so bizarre I just gave up bravenak Dec 2016 #82

People need to understand that sexism is often more complicated than saying: StevieM Dec 2016 #84

They really do. It is way way more complex than that bravenak Dec 2016 #85

Same old same old, especially from the left. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #87

And they were so obvious bravenak Dec 2016 #88

What saddens me most is how many women voted against a liberal woman. lovemydog Dec 2016 #89

The majority of women voted for Hillary. Just not all white women. Women who ehrnst Dec 2016 #91

Oh, bravenak, you are so, unfortunately, right! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #90

When they said things like "it's not enough to vote for her JUST because she's a woman" ehrnst Dec 2016 #92