"Wall Street Democrats failed us." The establishment Democrats have failed the American people."

[NCDem777]

48. Okay full disclosure

I volunteered for both the Bernie and Hillary campaigns. Voted for the former in primary and latter in general.

The thing with so many anti-establishment Dems is that they want Democrats to be liberals. And not just more polite less racist versions of Republicans.

How can we call ourselves anti-war when a Democratic President got us into a bunch of ill conceived military engagements in the Middle-East? Despite the fact he basically ran on a platform of not doing that and we won in 2006-08 on the basis that we'd stop that bullshit. Now we're involved in multiple moronic conflicts in the region (I consider any conflict with its roots in religion. ANY religion, moronic), sometimes accidentally aiding both sides.

How can we credibly say we're against trade deals that gutted the Middle Class when Democratic Presidents signed a good chunk of them and actively pushed for the TPP, which was less a trade deal and more of corporate Christmas list? And let's not pretend Hillary wouldn't have been pushing for it if Sanders didn't force the issue.

How can we say we're against mass incarceration and THEN nominate the literal worst Dem. to tackle that issue? She helped popularize the "superpredator" crap. Bill Clinton went all in with the hysteria the Republicans were promoting. Saying "whoopsie" just doesn't cut it.

And all of this could potentially be forgiven if the Democrats weren't always so conciliatory towards Republicans. Look at how Democrats behave in the majority vs. how Republicans behave in that position. We try to "find common ground". They roll over us.

It's hard to have faith in weak-kneed Dems who basically behave like Republicans when it comes down to the big issues. We need to become the party of no.Especially since the other party, given the chance, would try to have us exterminated.