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JCanete

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15. No, the people don't know the media is corporatist. We don't tell them. They think the media has
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 02:36 PM
Dec 2016

a liberal bias, ironically, because the media has been telling them this for 30 years. They have manufactured this fact. If there is any sense that the media IS corporate in the public, that only serves their poor understanding of what liberal stands for. WE as a party, have abdicated the responsibility of educating people on this, and I'm sorry, that's not because we couldn't make a compelling case, its because it has been inconvenient for our party to point to the money for a very long time.

The whole process IS FUCKED. What about our politics today makes you think otherwise? Cynicism does decrease voting, you're right. Why don't we give people something to be optimistic about already, because trying to convince them that things aren't fucked is a lie, and a losing battle anyway. It just makes us look like part of the problem. The system is rigged against people, marginalized groups to the extreme, but everybody who isn't in the top 1% and we can't convince them that we are doing something for them when we are telling them that we are going to work with those very people who are screwing us to screw us less. You know who else they can't convince? Those very people they are going to work with to screw us less. We are a nice back-up plan should their a-team of hacks overreach. Then they have their second-string to give the people some modicum sense of change and amelioration of their suffering. Rinse, repeat.

Here is what strategy was bad.... vi5 Dec 2016 #1
I agree that the pop vote lead proves that most people agree with the liberal platform.. JHan Dec 2016 #2
Obama needed to be a better salesman.... vi5 Dec 2016 #5
but in fact her 50 state strategy was in part to expand the base and was planned Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4
Well obviously that didn't happen either... vi5 Dec 2016 #6
Fair enough. But did you read the piece? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #7
I more or less agree with it.... vi5 Dec 2016 #8
She spent a lot of time and resources in Pennsylvania oberliner Dec 2016 #14
this piece actually is the perfect encapsulization of what I've been arguing for months Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #3
I've no problem calling it out as stupid as well.. JHan Dec 2016 #9
The article sets up a straw-man by suggesting that Sanders thinks we should refocus JCanete Dec 2016 #10
It doesn't matter who or how or what brought her more to the left, she was on the left. JHan Dec 2016 #11
The article proves that we are clueless. Take on the fucking media already. Some small percentage of JCanete Dec 2016 #12
I prove I have empathy by voting to help pass policies that benefit them... JHan Dec 2016 #13
No, the people don't know the media is corporatist. We don't tell them. They think the media has JCanete Dec 2016 #15
I don't know how to counter the misinformation: JHan Dec 2016 #16
There is nothing I disagree with really about what you just said. The very sad fact about JCanete Dec 2016 #17
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