2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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12. The article proves that we are clueless. Take on the fucking media already. Some small percentage of

Sun Dec 18, 2016, 02:02 PM

Dec 2016

progressives sitting out in the election is NOTHING compared to the influence that American Corporate Media had on determining the winner in this election, and NOTHING compared to its degenerative impact on the "informed voter" over the last 30 years. It is destroying our democracy. Just devastating it.

That you can't find empathy for people who do harm to others is fair. I think it's exactly the place that we need to find empathy because this is where it is hardest, and I think Dr. King had empathy for these very people. I also think that when you stop having it you start to think of them as monsters or other-than. You have put up a wall. Yes, the same kind of wall they put up. They can't find empathy for people that they already "know" are what's wrong with society; that they already "know" are bad people with bad designs. They know them by their works too. Just because their evidence is wronger than your evidence, doesn't mean that it is better when we do this.

the point is we start using our opinions of people as filters for our evidence.

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On Progressive Politics: Its the Strategy, Stupid [View all] JHan Dec 2016 OP

Here is what strategy was bad.... vi5 Dec 2016 #1

I agree that the pop vote lead proves that most people agree with the liberal platform.. JHan Dec 2016 #2

Obama needed to be a better salesman.... vi5 Dec 2016 #5

but in fact her 50 state strategy was in part to expand the base and was planned Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4

Well obviously that didn't happen either... vi5 Dec 2016 #6

Fair enough. But did you read the piece? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #7

I more or less agree with it.... vi5 Dec 2016 #8

She spent a lot of time and resources in Pennsylvania oberliner Dec 2016 #14

this piece actually is the perfect encapsulization of what I've been arguing for months Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #3

I've no problem calling it out as stupid as well.. JHan Dec 2016 #9

The article sets up a straw-man by suggesting that Sanders thinks we should refocus JCanete Dec 2016 #10

It doesn't matter who or how or what brought her more to the left, she was on the left. JHan Dec 2016 #11

The article proves that we are clueless. Take on the fucking media already. Some small percentage of JCanete Dec 2016 #12

I prove I have empathy by voting to help pass policies that benefit them... JHan Dec 2016 #13

No, the people don't know the media is corporatist. We don't tell them. They think the media has JCanete Dec 2016 #15

I don't know how to counter the misinformation: JHan Dec 2016 #16

There is nothing I disagree with really about what you just said. The very sad fact about JCanete Dec 2016 #17