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JHan

(10,173 posts)
11. It doesn't matter who or how or what brought her more to the left, she was on the left.
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 01:44 PM
Dec 2016

Historically she has been on the left; If she wasn't sufficiently to the left at some other point in history it matters not:

The major truth of the article is that we are clueless.

We needed to not play cute and focus on winning and prioritizing what is important for us, not something a candidate said a zillion years ago, or something her husband did, or all the other trite nonsense some progressives served up in a year like this. It is up to us to make the right choices, not fling mud at allies whose positions are generally similar to our aims and goals.

"If Martin Luther King had thought this way, there would have been no reason to march. Civil disobedience would have been absurd in the face of that “reality.” But the truth is, people do change. " - Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement was based on good ole liberal values. I will fight for every American to get decent healthcare and while I understand the pitfalls of racism and why people think the way they do I cannot empathize with those who vote for man whose policies will throw people under the bus. I am not interested in empathizing with someone who scapegoats immigrants and demonizes them, even while I vote to make sure policies get passed which will improve their lives and mine. At some point voters have to own their BS.

P.S And the reference to Sanders in the piece dealt specifically with the reaction to the loss when Democrats and progressives lost their heads and without any evidence helped spread the damaging myth that we had no economic message.

This was false, this was a lie. And any progressive saying it deserves serious side eye.

Here is what strategy was bad.... vi5 Dec 2016 #1
I agree that the pop vote lead proves that most people agree with the liberal platform.. JHan Dec 2016 #2
Obama needed to be a better salesman.... vi5 Dec 2016 #5
but in fact her 50 state strategy was in part to expand the base and was planned Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #4
Well obviously that didn't happen either... vi5 Dec 2016 #6
Fair enough. But did you read the piece? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #7
I more or less agree with it.... vi5 Dec 2016 #8
She spent a lot of time and resources in Pennsylvania oberliner Dec 2016 #14
this piece actually is the perfect encapsulization of what I've been arguing for months Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #3
I've no problem calling it out as stupid as well.. JHan Dec 2016 #9
The article sets up a straw-man by suggesting that Sanders thinks we should refocus JCanete Dec 2016 #10
It doesn't matter who or how or what brought her more to the left, she was on the left. JHan Dec 2016 #11
The article proves that we are clueless. Take on the fucking media already. Some small percentage of JCanete Dec 2016 #12
I prove I have empathy by voting to help pass policies that benefit them... JHan Dec 2016 #13
No, the people don't know the media is corporatist. We don't tell them. They think the media has JCanete Dec 2016 #15
I don't know how to counter the misinformation: JHan Dec 2016 #16
There is nothing I disagree with really about what you just said. The very sad fact about JCanete Dec 2016 #17
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