2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie filled stadiums. Much as I like Hillary, she just wasn't an exciting candidate. [View all]synergie
(1,901 posts)to people. Bernie didn't bring out voters. He told the ones following him around like groupies incorrect things, and told them their vote didn't matter. They listened. There is literally nothing but false beliefs and fantasies to pretend that Bernie, who couldn't even win a primary and had no ability to persuade his voters to actually come out and vote against the Orange one, or even himself would have won "more votes" than Hillary, who literally pulled in a historic number of actual votes.
I guess you missed what Hillary's actual policy speeches were, since she had actual plans to bring about jobs for everyone, even the stupid people who bought Donnie's BS about bringing back coal and manufacturing jobs.
I'm sorry but that's a load of BS. We are in an era of rewarding the stupid who don't like facts, but adore foreign propaganda, fed to them by RT.
Hillary won actual votes, had actual plans,and despite the toxic amount of hate, lies and propaganda used against her by RWers and those who unthinkingly spewed out literally the same talking points from the supposed left SHE STILL WON VOTES.
Please stop with this Bernie could have done something, he's still not doing anything, he's been in congress and in power longer than she has, he's just achieved less. Donnie is also an "insider" he's just a moron who wasn't expecting to win, til it was handed to him by people who don't want effective leadership in the US. The same group pushing Bernie. This was RW and Russian ratfucking, let's not pretend otherwise. The ACTUAL polls, where voters voted prove that your understanding of what went on here is not correct.