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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Kos does the 2016 Post-Mortem exactly wrong. [View all]asuhornets
(2,427 posts)2. He got it right in my opinion. They voted for tRump-this is what they get for their vote..
If Democrats were to save their health insurance-how will those coal miners repay the Democrats-by not voting for them --that's how.
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wow, fucking a. That really is horrible optics, and makes my stomach a little ill. nt
JCanete
Dec 2016
#1
He got it right in my opinion. They voted for tRump-this is what they get for their vote..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#2
The people that you want Democrats to appeal to would not vote for a Democrat
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#14
I'm not talking about appealing to them as voters...I'm talking about appealing to them as humans
JCanete
Dec 2016
#15
Your words: If they understood how they were being used by republicans with race bating and gay bash
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#18
you think they understand that republicans are just manipulating them into voting on bigotry
JCanete
Dec 2016
#24
We are talking about Adults, not children..Why do they need to be coddled? nt
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#39
yes you are, and any kind of eye for an eye mentality will make the world go blind...ooh
JCanete
Dec 2016
#30
Oh they have my compassion. and I hope Trump keeps Obamacare for their sake and many others..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#19
Well they don't have Moulitsa's, and you said he got it right, thus the confusion. nt
JCanete
Dec 2016
#21
He did get it right...they made the decision as adults..I won't hold their hand..nt
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#40
Why not? Because if you are ignorant by the time you are an adult, its your fault entirely so
JCanete
Dec 2016
#50
The people who vote against their interest have a right to do so. That's on them..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#51
What they do affects us and vice versa. It seems like we have a stake in helping people to look at
JCanete
Dec 2016
#63
Ultimately a voter is responsible for their vote. BTW it isnt a boolean concept.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#5
Ultimately people make mistakes. All the time. Actually, I thought we were the party that said
JCanete
Dec 2016
#7
Who said stop loving or calling them stupid? I just said they are responsible.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#11
but you are essentially putting things outside of their current understanding on their shoulders,
JCanete
Dec 2016
#13
No, everything was within their ability to understand had they tried. It's not like your example
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#16
Why would they try? People of authority who they have always trusted are giving them the answers.
JCanete
Dec 2016
#20
but ACA is a mixed bag and hard to understand. It is being sold as people's premiums going through
JCanete
Dec 2016
#49
Holy shit. You literally want to take a Republican position just because it hurts people that are
JCanete
Dec 2016
#64
Thank you, Steven. It is the responsibility of the people to understand what and who
madinmaryland
Dec 2016
#59
Adam Johnson is a dick... and there was nothing wrong with that DKos article
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#6
I kind of see what Kos is saying. Things have to get worse before they get better. that's why I'm
coolbreeze77
Dec 2016
#44