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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Kos does the 2016 Post-Mortem exactly wrong. [View all]
Daily Kos Founder Gleefully Celebrates Coal Miners Losing Health InsuranceDaily Kos publisher and Vox Media co-founder Markos Kos Moulitsas, an influential voice in liberal politics, published a blog post (Daily Kos, 12/12/16) that captures just how terribly leading Democratic pundits are taking Hillary Clintons unexpected defeat. In the wake of this loss, some of the more hardcore Clinton partisans have chosen, in lieu of self-examination and internal criticism, to simply lash out at the voters they failed to win over.
With the punitive glee of a medieval executioner, Moulitsas proclaimed: Be Happy for Coal Miners Losing Their Health Insurance. Theyre Getting Exactly What They Voted For:For example, why should we weep for the retired coal miners who will now lose their health insurance thanks to the GOP majoritydespite the best efforts of coal-state Democrats to change the outcome?
Yes, this will be a terrible outcome for a group of people who have really drawn a shitty lot in life. But how sorry should we be for this crowd? Coal country swung hard for Donald Trump, winning 70 to 80 percent of the vote in some of these counties.
So a major voice in liberal media is now not only morally justifying millions of working people losing their health insurance, but actually insisting we be happy for it? Moulitsas went on to evoke a classic right-wing dictum about people getting the democracy they deserve:Dont weep for these coal miners, now abandoned by their GOP patrons. They are getting exactly the government that they voted for. Democrats can no longer offer unrequited love and cover for them. And isnt this what democracy is all about? They won the election! This is what they wanted!
I agree with the FAIR reporter (Adam Johnson) here. Punching downward should never be a part of any Democratic action, post-mortem or otherwise. The Appalachian coal communities are facing water supplies as polluted, economic prospects as degraded, and educational opportunities as lacking as any other oppressed community in the nation: black, white, or otherwise. Maybe we need simplistic sound bites and brash charisma to reach parts of Appalachia, because nuanced policy gets drowned out. That's on us: until better critical thinking skills are part of what every middle schooler learns, we need both policy and charisma.
A few more good paragraphs at source: http://fair.org/home/daily-kos-founder-gleefully-celebrates-coal-miners-losing-health-insurance/
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wow, fucking a. That really is horrible optics, and makes my stomach a little ill. nt
JCanete
Dec 2016
#1
He got it right in my opinion. They voted for tRump-this is what they get for their vote..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#2
The people that you want Democrats to appeal to would not vote for a Democrat
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#14
I'm not talking about appealing to them as voters...I'm talking about appealing to them as humans
JCanete
Dec 2016
#15
Your words: If they understood how they were being used by republicans with race bating and gay bash
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#18
you think they understand that republicans are just manipulating them into voting on bigotry
JCanete
Dec 2016
#24
We are talking about Adults, not children..Why do they need to be coddled? nt
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#39
yes you are, and any kind of eye for an eye mentality will make the world go blind...ooh
JCanete
Dec 2016
#30
Oh they have my compassion. and I hope Trump keeps Obamacare for their sake and many others..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#19
Well they don't have Moulitsa's, and you said he got it right, thus the confusion. nt
JCanete
Dec 2016
#21
He did get it right...they made the decision as adults..I won't hold their hand..nt
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#40
Why not? Because if you are ignorant by the time you are an adult, its your fault entirely so
JCanete
Dec 2016
#50
The people who vote against their interest have a right to do so. That's on them..
asuhornets
Dec 2016
#51
What they do affects us and vice versa. It seems like we have a stake in helping people to look at
JCanete
Dec 2016
#63
Ultimately a voter is responsible for their vote. BTW it isnt a boolean concept.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#5
Ultimately people make mistakes. All the time. Actually, I thought we were the party that said
JCanete
Dec 2016
#7
Who said stop loving or calling them stupid? I just said they are responsible.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#11
but you are essentially putting things outside of their current understanding on their shoulders,
JCanete
Dec 2016
#13
No, everything was within their ability to understand had they tried. It's not like your example
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#16
Why would they try? People of authority who they have always trusted are giving them the answers.
JCanete
Dec 2016
#20
but ACA is a mixed bag and hard to understand. It is being sold as people's premiums going through
JCanete
Dec 2016
#49
Holy shit. You literally want to take a Republican position just because it hurts people that are
JCanete
Dec 2016
#64
Thank you, Steven. It is the responsibility of the people to understand what and who
madinmaryland
Dec 2016
#59
Adam Johnson is a dick... and there was nothing wrong with that DKos article
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#6
I kind of see what Kos is saying. Things have to get worse before they get better. that's why I'm
coolbreeze77
Dec 2016
#44