2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So tell me again where we went "wrong". [View all]NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... to have won the majority of votes. Some people just persist in ignoring that fact.
"Everything" right? No politician in history has ever done "everything" right. This board has been full of posts claiming that the Dems have "abandoned" the middle-class worker, are "too establishment", "too close" to Wall Street, "too friendly" with corporations and the monied class.
And yet HRC's campaign, and the Dem Party at large, have always fought for the working man, for unions, for small businesses - as well as fighting for the rights of minorities, GLBTers, and fighting to keep safety nets in place for those who need them to survive.
The GOP message, on the other hand, has always been the dimunition of rights, serving the wants of corporations and the wealthy over the needs of the middle-class, dismantling safety nets, etc.
That's why I take issue with the "wrong message" meme.
Who we "lost" as potential voters were people who insist that unemployment soared under Obama, that 9/11 and Katrina happened while Obama was president, who think illegals are stealing six-figure-a-year jobs out from under them, who think GBLTers should be imprisoned for causing moral decay, who think education is for "elitists", who think science is the work of the devil.
We "lost" people who think being white makes them superior, that Mexicans are rapists and Muslims are terrorists; people who believe that women need to be subjugated and have no say where their own bodies are concerned, who believe that the Bible should take precedence over proven science, who believe that those pesky blacks and conniving Jews are ruining their chances of ever getting ahead.
There was nothing "wrong" with HRC's message, or the message of the Democratic Party. What's "wrong" here is that a large swath of the nation is too stupid to listen to ANY message that doesn't confirm their belief that by keeping "certain people" down, they will prosper. You can confront these people with facts, stats, pie-charts, graphs - whatever. They just shake their heads and say, "No, you've got it wrong. If Obama hadn't been away on one of his endless vacations, we wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11."
What's the answer? Damned if I know. How do you get your message through to people who have their fingers in their ears, or simply turn-up the TV volume so FOX-News drowns out what you're saying? How do you sell the message "we're on YOUR side" to people who think a billionaire who outsources US jobs to low-wage countries is somehow the champion of those unemployed because their jobs were outsourced?
We don't have the "wrong message". We didn't run the "wrong candidate". What we're up against is stupid, oh-so-proudly ill-informed people who get their "facts" from Rush Limbaugh et al, and are willing to vote against their own self interests if the Republican lies are big enough, and the GOP's "message" coddles their utter stupidity.
So what do we do from here? Dumb down the Democratic Party? Appeal to the bigots, the racists, the woefully ignorant, and tell them how right they are? Play to the dumber-than-dumb who, according to the EC rules, live in the "right states" where their votes have more weight than the millions who live in the "wrong" states?
You tell me.