2016 Postmortem

lapucelle

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37. I've been a registered Democrat in NY for over 40 years.

Reply to hellofromreddit (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:12 PM

Dec 2016

Nobody games our primaries. If you want a voice in selecting the party's nominees, you need to declare your affiliation before the previous year's general election.

I spent weekends in September and early October in PA helping to re-register Democrats who had been thrown off the rolls due to new registration requiremjents. In mid to late October, we helped devise voting plans for the working poor. Whining about being uninformed and missing deadlines because you were too busy to look up they information on your iPhone and then declare party affiliation by filling out a short form on a website is a complaint of the privileged.

I canvassed in PA with people who had voted for Sanders in the primary. They knew how important it was.

Those newly disenfranchised by the gutting of the Voting Rights Act were counting on us to show up on November 8. We let them down.

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How we regarded election fraud and systemic bias in the primary [View all] hellofromreddit Dec 2016 OP

WOW !! Another "Russia Who?!" postmortem OP uponit7771 Dec 2016 #1

I didn't say anything about Russia one way or another. Is that some new requirement? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #3

That's the point, everything else is peripheral and marginal at best ... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

Exactly. Squinch Dec 2016 #18

And it turns out that these talking points were promoted by Russia to keep the Bernie Bros mad Botany Dec 2016 #2

Ah, but that doesn't explain folks getting apoplectic about Sanders requesting a recanvas. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #7

Bernie and his recounts and his staying way to long helped us lose this election and there was no Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #26

Tell me, how did it feel to manipulated by Putin? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #44

Childish bs like that has been costing us elections. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #52

I agree Botany. I have always felt like the emails that Russia stole and then leaked through skylucy Dec 2016 #33

your screen name, "hellofromreddit" hlthe2b Dec 2016 #5

Hi! hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #6

Yeah, like we really need the kind of shit the cesspool of reddit generated this election season. JTFrog Dec 2016 #11

BERNIE WUS ROBBED!!...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #8

Yes, the Russians said so! CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #45

LOL. Still with the conspiracy theories? I look forward to your OPs about pizzagate. DanTex Dec 2016 #9

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I wonder why Bernie was not attacked by the Russians or the Repubicans Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #27

False. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #28

That obscure link to an ad no one saw is supposed to prove what exactly? nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #64

What's this hole in the ground?!? I could have sworn there was a goalpost here! hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #67

Directly addressing your points is moving goalposts to you? stevenleser Dec 2016 #69

This whole Russia thing is beginning to feel like Shock Doctrine to me. jalan48 Dec 2016 #10

I think many fear a civil war to be honest. JTFrog Dec 2016 #12

They won't get far. You forget not all of them are batshit crazies and want to get re-elected. duffyduff Dec 2016 #13

Then why isn't the Democratic Party leadership calling for massive protests? jalan48 Dec 2016 #15

Why would you think they would call for massive protests? When was the last time they Squinch Dec 2016 #19

I thought the Russians intervened to affect the outcome of our Presidential election. jalan48 Dec 2016 #20

You are suggesting that because the Democratic leaders aren't calling for riots in the streets Squinch Dec 2016 #21

Somehow protests/demonstrations became riots-interesting. jalan48 Dec 2016 #23

You aren't sensing I don't think its serious, because I have STATED that I DO think it's serious. Squinch Dec 2016 #40

Great to hear you are on board. jalan48 Dec 2016 #48

Wish you were on board. Don't know why you are pulling this bullshit, but I guess internet Squinch Dec 2016 #54

I'm not getting worked up until I see better evidence of fraud. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #24

Exactly.. I don't wanna turn into Alex Jones realmirage Dec 2016 #51

What do you expect our leaders to do exactly? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #31

From what I'm hearing Hillary didn't lose. The Russian's cost her the election. jalan48 Dec 2016 #34

No, she lost in part because Putin manipulated Bernie supporters CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #46

I can't speak for others but that wasn't the case for me. jalan48 Dec 2016 #49

You seem to be insinutating that Putin was justified..... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #55

No insinuation at all as to justification. Just more information on the background. jalan48 Dec 2016 #56

This is your post, read it with a fresh eye and tell me again how it can't possibly be read.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #58

I don't see it. Sorry. jalan48 Dec 2016 #59

My first sentence was a comment on your post .... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #61

Thanks. I can see how my words might be interpreted in a way I had not intended. jalan48 Dec 2016 #74

Thanks for the clarification CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #78

YW jalan48 Dec 2016 #79

Your logic utterly fails. For example: Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #82

I think you are replying to the wrong person CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #83

Nope. You. You are the one illogically reading a false insinuation into the quoted bit. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #84

Agree! +100 skylucy Dec 2016 #35

Dems NEVER do that sort of thing -- for better or worse. They try to take the high road Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #39

Nope, there were suspicions of this before Election Day while we all thought stevenleser Dec 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Dec 2016 #14

Sanders was on the DC ballot BainsBane Dec 2016 #16

I always found that amusing.. JHan Dec 2016 #29

Nope. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #38

So if you think nothing untoward effected the primary results - why equate it with the Russian hacks bettyellen Dec 2016 #53

I'm pointing out the disparity of reactions around here. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #57

So mocking some voters is "interference"? Oh bullshit. bettyellen Dec 2016 #60

Not what I'm saying. Not playing that game with you either. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #62

It's what you said. Seriously that deserves more mocking. bettyellen Dec 2016 #63

A foolish consistency is indeed, the hobgoblin of little minds. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #72

Another "we deserve this because Bernie wasn't crowned king" thread? Seriously? bettyellen Dec 2016 #22

Obviously not what I said. All the text is there, feel free to reread as many times as you need. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #25

I won't read it...and I wonder who you voted for... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #32

You're flat out calling Dems here hypocrites and it's bulllshit. bettyellen Dec 2016 #41

I just posted links to threads in the forum. What you're mad at is harsh reality. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #42

What's the harsh reality you keep tap dancing around? bettyellen Dec 2016 #43

Link hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #50

Nope, your links aren't reality, they are spin. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #66

Well, yeah. That's kinda the point. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #68

Yes, it is. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #70

Cowering behind obvious implication is good politics. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #73

Yep. I agree. That is getting really old, isn't it? skylucy Dec 2016 #36

*yawn* Lil Missy Dec 2016 #30

I've been a registered Democrat in NY for over 40 years. lapucelle Dec 2016 #37

Excellent post CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #47

A hundred times this!!!!! JHan Dec 2016 #76

... LexVegas Dec 2016 #71

+1. Funny isnt it. jack_krass Dec 2016 #75

Hillary beat Bernie by 4 million votes and she beat trump by almost 3 million..popular votes..nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #77

Is Reddit that anti-woman website? nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #80

That gave us Wiki-worship, and the Guccifer crap. bettyellen Dec 2016 #81