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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: What is the right way to think about Trump voters? [View all]Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)53. Some articles I've found helpful
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming
And the best article I've read about how to deal with people moving forward: (follow link for a version with links intact)
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming
And the best article I've read about how to deal with people moving forward: (follow link for a version with links intact)
http://charleseisenstein.net/hategriefandanewstory/
At such moments, it is a normal response to find someone to blame, as if identifying fault could restore the lost normality, and to lash out in anger. Hate and blame are convenient ways of making meaning out of a bewildering situation. Anyone who disputes the blame narrative may receive more hostility than the opponents themselves, as in wartime when pacifists are more reviled than the enemy.
Racism and misogyny are devastatingly real in this country, but to blame bigotry and sexism for voters repudiation of the Establishment is to deny the validity of their deep sense of betrayal and alienation. The vast majority of Trump voters were expressing extreme dissatisfaction with the system in the way most readily available to them. (See here, here, here, here) Millions of Obama voters voted for Trump (six states who went for Obama twice switched to Trump). Did they suddenly become racists in the last four years? The blame-the-racists (the fools, the yokels ) narrative generates a clear demarcation between good (us) and evil (them), but it does violence to the truth. It also obscures an important root of racism anger displaced away from an oppressive system and its elites and onto other victims of that system. Finally, it employs the same dehumanization of the other that is the essence of racism and the precondition for war. Such is the cost of preserving a dying story. That is one reason why paroxysms of violence so often accompany a culture-defining storys demise.
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Even if the person you face IS a misogynist or bigot, ask, Is this who they are, really? Ask what confluence of circumstances, social, economic, and biographical, may have brought them there. You may still not know how to engage them, but at least you will not be on the warpath automatically. We hate what we fear, and we fear what we do not know. So lets stop making our opponents invisible behind a caricature of evil.
Weve got to stop acting out hate. I see no less of it in the liberal media than I do in the right-wing. It is just better disguised, hiding beneath pseudo-psychological epithets and dehumanizing ideological labels. Exercising it, we create more of it. What is beneath the hate? My acupuncturist Sarah Fields wrote to me, Hate is just a bodyguard for grief. When people lose the hate, they are forced to deal with the pain beneath.
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I do NOT forgive them. I suspect the vast majority know exactly what they've done.
NRaleighLiberal
Dec 2016
#2
I'm pissed at them and not likely to be in a forgiving mood toward them in the foreseeable future.
Arkansas Granny
Dec 2016
#8
Talk to one for five minutes I'll bet either "the blacks" "the Mexicans" "the Muslims"
doc03
Dec 2016
#10
yes, that's usually what I go with, but they just don't hear that at all!
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#39
Anger is a waste of emotion. They are going to watch their lives be destroyed and
Eliot Rosewater
Dec 2016
#26
Lobby big-pharma to start making more red pills: the blue ones aren't working
Jean-Jacques Roussea
Dec 2016
#27
sorry... I have some relatives who voted for Trump and we are friends on FB
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#34
First, I would feel sorry for all of us that have been dragged into this shit storm because of them!
RKP5637
Dec 2016
#35
that they are people, and as such, stupid. No need to think of them as any worse or better than
JCanete
Dec 2016
#48
My wish is that they reap all that they have sown. I hope they all suffer. Deeply.
Squinch
Dec 2016
#49
that's all fine-- the problem is they ignored all freaking red flags and red lights and danger signs
Fast Walker 52
Dec 2016
#60