2016 Postmortem

JCanete

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48. that they are people, and as such, stupid. No need to think of them as any worse or better than

Fri Dec 9, 2016, 04:08 PM

Dec 2016

anybody else. They have the same capacity for growth and wisdom that we do, and the same capacity for reactionary limbic driven decision making. Some have the privilege of ignorance that affects their self-serving judgement, and many more have the misfortune of it, which affects their self-harming judgement.

The level of ignorance shouldn't be thought of as willful. It should be thought of as systemic----even systematic to a great extent. Focus on the mechanisms and not their products. Its the machinery that is the problem.

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What is the right way to think about Trump voters? [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

I'm in the angry and disgusted mode towards them SHRED Dec 2016 #1

to be clear, I'm mostly angry... but I can't stay angry forever can I? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #3

good question SHRED Dec 2016 #4

yes Afromania Dec 2016 #11

good way to put it. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #12

this is my fear, barbtries Dec 2016 #30

I have been wondering that same thing. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #52

I do NOT forgive them. I suspect the vast majority know exactly what they've done. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #2

Ditto Runningdawg Dec 2016 #40

Ditto +2 n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #43

Naive at best, idiot racists at worst. vi5 Dec 2016 #5

so the non-voters-- any stats on why they didn't vote Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #15

i know of 2. barbtries Dec 2016 #32

Not engaging the rust belt voters is exactly why Trump won NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #20

Didn't say don't engage the Rust Belt voters vi5 Dec 2016 #56

I don't feel sorry for them True_Blue Dec 2016 #6

there is no forgiveness handmade34 Dec 2016 #7

I'm pissed at them and not likely to be in a forgiving mood toward them in the foreseeable future. Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #8

yep. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #14

I agree with you 100%! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #64

I consider them future war criminals, guilty by acquiescence to a monster Moostache Dec 2016 #9

agree 100% Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #13

Should there be some kind of legal sanction against them? Marengo Dec 2016 #22

Talk to one for five minutes I'll bet either "the blacks" "the Mexicans" "the Muslims" doc03 Dec 2016 #10

Right or wrong - it's personal to me. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #16

The kindest assessment BainsBane Dec 2016 #17

yes, that's usually what I go with, but they just don't hear that at all! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #39

Do the civilized thing sarisataka Dec 2016 #18

love it, thanks Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #38

Useful idiots to Trump. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #19

Disdain is all they will get for me RonniePudding Dec 2016 #21

I can't seem to get beyond "stupid, stupid people." Vinca Dec 2016 #23

It isn't to kiss their asses. It certainly isn't that. dawg Dec 2016 #24

My brother voted for him Separation Dec 2016 #25

Anger is a waste of emotion. They are going to watch their lives be destroyed and Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #26

Lobby big-pharma to start making more red pills: the blue ones aren't working Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #27

If there were a hell and a devil presiding over it... FiveGoodMen Dec 2016 #28

i'm pissed at them. barbtries Dec 2016 #29

I hear you-- I think a lot of us are in the same place Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #36

My sister is one C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #31

sorry... I have some relatives who voted for Trump and we are friends on FB Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #34

Contempt...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #33

First, I would feel sorry for all of us that have been dragged into this shit storm because of them! RKP5637 Dec 2016 #35

Fuck 'em. Paladin Dec 2016 #37

everyone that inflicted the maggot MFM008 Dec 2016 #41

I think something is missing from their moral compass. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #42

Surrounded by Trump voters zeusdogmom Dec 2016 #44

welcome to DU, and please keep us updated how it goes with them Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #47

Bigots. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #45

I detest them. Third Doctor Dec 2016 #46

that they are people, and as such, stupid. No need to think of them as any worse or better than JCanete Dec 2016 #48

My wish is that they reap all that they have sown. I hope they all suffer. Deeply. Squinch Dec 2016 #49

Knowing that co-workers and acquaintances... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #50

same here. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #62

They have forgotten what makes America great randr Dec 2016 #51

Some articles I've found helpful Dems to Win Dec 2016 #53

thanks... you're right but it is super hard even then, to forgive them Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #61

They are bitter, mean-spirited assholes Va Lefty Dec 2016 #54

95% say they hate Obama. Hatred won. bettyellen Dec 2016 #55

The staggering majority of Trump voters are normal people hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #57

Nope. You don't understand their mindset. duffyduff Dec 2016 #58

"The fact is we don't need them"? Prepare to lose again. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #59

that's all fine-- the problem is they ignored all freaking red flags and red lights and danger signs Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #60

Not at all EffieBlack Dec 2016 #63

haha, if only! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #65