2016 Postmortem

lapucelle

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65. And your point is?

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:16 PM

Dec 2016

Clinton lost because of a toxic element of one faction of sorta Democrats.

They could have been heroes; they chose to be spoilers. No matter how much people spin, 65,000,000 people know exactly who is responsible for insuring a Trump victory. Clinton, Obama, and even even Sanders begged them not to do it. They did it anyway. They need to learn to live with the contempt that they will be facing for at least the next four years.

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After the defeat of Hillary Clinton, what should the US left do next? [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

Start focusing on the working person again. Uniquitous Dec 2016 #1

Two things. Exilednight Dec 2016 #2

3. Don't pave the way for a well-known candidate with high negatives. nt killbotfactory Dec 2016 #13

If you win the primary, you are the nominee... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #15

Not really the case this time budkin Dec 2016 #33

Creative prophecy... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #56

Plenty of horses don't come in first in the qualifying race but go on Exilednight Dec 2016 #36

It doesn't matter. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #43

Wow GummyBearz Dec 2016 #44

The primary hurt her anyway. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #45

The primary hurts everyone GummyBearz Dec 2016 #47

This was not like other primaries... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #50

I can say the same thing about 2008. Exilednight Dec 2016 #57

You can say it but it is not true. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #60

Especially if that person was polled by Gallup to be the most admired woman in December 2015. lapucelle Dec 2016 #52

polls also had Hillary winning in a landslide. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #63

And your point is? lapucelle Dec 2016 #65

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #66

4. Rethink the whole 'super-delegate' scheme. nt jonno99 Dec 2016 #34

This makes good sense... nil desperandum Dec 2016 #37

1. Ignore the pundits ucrdem Dec 2016 #3

Get rid of the electoral college. Period! apcalc Dec 2016 #4

Not going to happen. Period! EL34x4 Dec 2016 #14

It would take a Constitutional amendment MichMary Dec 2016 #32

Like it or not, the US is a republic - of 50 individual states. We need to face the fact jonno99 Dec 2016 #35

The US is an oligarchy. apcalc Dec 2016 #40

If true, then we should strive as much as possible to decentralize the rulling class jonno99 Dec 2016 #41

Consider this from Daily Kos apcalc Dec 2016 #58

Well, the DK article starts with a false premise: jonno99 Dec 2016 #59

Why would you think that that is a solution? potone Dec 2016 #67

"he said he'd fix peoples problems, while Clinton said they didnt have problems" Dems to Win Dec 2016 #5

How much chance of a 'living wage' happening do you think we have now? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #17

We need a lefty "Tea Party" malchickiwick Dec 2016 #6

Actually, the GOP wins because they vote for the candidate with the 'R' next to their name. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #18

I've been told GummyBearz Dec 2016 #46

Well those who were not 'excited' enough to vote for Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #51

work on it's 'tone-deafness' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #7

"...while Clinton said they didn't have problems." Garrett78 Dec 2016 #8

this Canadian liberal academic puts it best gejohnston Dec 2016 #9

That is a pretty damn good analysis hueymahl Dec 2016 #24

That was excellent GummyBearz Dec 2016 #48

Fire Comey, demand release of classiified triron Dec 2016 #10

"The Left" has no power to fire the FBI Director Hekate Dec 2016 #12

Constitutional Amendment to abolish EC. Federalize national elections with appropriate.... Hekate Dec 2016 #11

Stop letting them frame the narrative. This helps them do it. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #16

How do you stop that with our media...seriously Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #19

Yep...the media showed they are an arm of the KGB/GOP because LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #22

And we can expect more of the same next time too. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #25

which is why we need to stay disciplined and honest about what they did, instead of giving it a LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #26

Agreed. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #28

Work to alienate Democrats from Right-Leaning News Networks. There's only so much GOP pie to share. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #20

All the networks have moved right. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #27

"that Clinton was the worst possible candidate to put against Trump". Out of the woodwork. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #21

I know, right? Do you believe this shit? They're trying divide and conquer. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #23

I fully believe it. No surprise at all. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #29

Straight out of JPR ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #31

What some on the "left" did this election worked so well of course ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #30

Find a strategy for winning elections at all levels mythology Dec 2016 #38

and hold them to account for their CRIMES LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #39

Contrive ways to disenfranchise Repuke voters? triron Dec 2016 #42

Focus on more than nostalgia. Orsino Dec 2016 #49

Exactly. It is never anyone's "turn." Vinca Dec 2016 #53

There is a point to electability, as hard as it is to define... Orsino Dec 2016 #55

become more like republicans mike_c Dec 2016 #54

Win in 2018. I want to find out how to go to local cities and make sure people are registered adigal Dec 2016 #61

"Clinton was the worst possible candidate to put against Trump"??? George II Dec 2016 #62

Get real and face up to the real problem of automation and a total collapse of CK_John Dec 2016 #64

Another take on what progressives can do Persondem Dec 2016 #68