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2016 Postmortem

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hellofromreddit

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Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:17 AM Dec 2016

Blaming external problems is just asserting weakness [View all]

Re: the numerous blame threads

I agree that lots of bad things happened that hurt Clinton and were beyond her control. But you can't fix any of that by sheer force of complaining, and focusing on it quickly turns into 16 years of crying about little old Nader. How do you think that hostility towards rinky-dink bit players fares in the face of being utterly feckless against a party that produced: monstrous debt, mass incarceration, Bush, the Iraq debacle, a policy of torture, mass financial industry corruption, legendary congressional inaction, government shutdowns, and now TV's Trump?

I know it's hard work, and people just love to distract themselves by blaming the hostile universe around us, but the democrats desperately have to focus on fixing the internal failures consuming them since those are something they do actually have control over.

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this assumes we lost fair and square. unblock Dec 2016 #1
white working class people don't face these obstacles... but guess who does. boston bean Dec 2016 #2
+1, yeap... seems the exit poll skewing etc is happening in the voter suppression states and uponit7771 Dec 2016 #6
Of course it's not fair! In what world do you think we live? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #8
Burying your head in the sand isn't strength kcr Dec 2016 #3
+1, "It's nothing but a false sense of control." uponit7771 Dec 2016 #5
You're right, Comey, Voter suppression and Russia were the only DOCUMENTED reasons she uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4
Why lead in by calling me Comey? I know that you mean it as an insult. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #9
sry bout that...edited uponit7771 Dec 2016 #10
When you've won the PV twice in the last 16 years and all you get is Dubya and Trump BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #7
Does that apply to Bernie too? BainsBane Dec 2016 #11
Sure, have at it. But mind the context. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #13
Push votes away? BainsBane Dec 2016 #15
Congress got decimated. States got decimated. If you have internet access, it's easy to check. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #17
Nonsense TwilightZone Dec 2016 #12
Address? Sure. Scapegoat? No. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #14
No, you really aren't. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #16
You misunderstood GummyBearz Dec 2016 #18
From the "blame the DNC, DWS, blacks/gays/women for Bernie's loss" crowd, this argument is BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #19
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