2016 Postmortem

NRQ891

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2. much of Trump's nastiest treatment, was directed toward the other republicans

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:55 PM

Dec 2016

this election started out with Jeb arriving like he was Junior at the family business. Massive financial war chest, journalistic revisionism of the W Bush era propaganda - a shoe-in.

then there was Ted Cruz, a cynic who had locked up the tea party and Evangelical vote

then there was Marco Rubio, an empty suit trading on a play for the Hispanic vote for the Republican party

there was Rand Paul, inheritor of the pot smoking libertarian conservatives, from his father Ron

and Carly Fiorina, a tech executive who united stockholders and workers in their hate of her

and Trump destroyed them all, mercilessly. Don't underestimate that was part of his appeal, a voting population that was mad at everyone, not just immigrants and muslims. They were angry with the *entire* political establishment, *including* Republicans

I think this point gets overlooked

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I think the "it ISN'T about economics" argument is, ultimately, a deeply right wing position. [View all] Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP

Well said. nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #1

much of Trump's nastiest treatment, was directed toward the other republicans NRQ891 Dec 2016 #2

The anti-establishment angle is overblown. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #5

the re-election of GOP incumbant, was motivated by 'Hillary-Containment' strategy NRQ891 Dec 2016 #7

Oh, please. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #9

May or may not be 'deeply rightwing,' elleng Dec 2016 #3

Or one could just look at exit polls. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #4

But part of the immigration issue is economic. potone Dec 2016 #11

Nah, I don't think it's that complicated. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #15

Thank you Cosmocat Dec 2016 #29

lol JI7 Dec 2016 #6

I'll give you this. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #8

Not Stein's message(she didn't start any of that) and I never supported her. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #14

Not true and insulting to boot. boston bean Dec 2016 #10

To whom? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #17

The lie itself is an insult. Stats refute your OP..... embarrased to read this BS here. bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

I didn't tell any lies. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #22

Hahahahahahaha Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #12

Those specific people should be condemned. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #13

It was a large group of people. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #16

Yep. Someone suggested POC would better able to afford the lawyers they needed... bettyellen Dec 2016 #19

People who would say those things are idiots and I join you in denouncing them. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #23

I accept that social oppression is the major part of your economic oppression Ken Burch Dec 2016 #24

How many times do we have to educate you on this? forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #26

I don't even know why I post in his threads. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #36

And if I had ever argued that we need to put the fight against bigotry to the side, you'd be right Ken Burch Dec 2016 #41

So why are you accusing people of putting economic concerns to the side? forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #42

Because that's the only explanation for all the threads on how economic issues played no role Ken Burch Dec 2016 #48

Economic injustice can't be defeated without defeating social injustice gollygee Dec 2016 #37

I agree with you on that. Always have. Pretty sure the vast majority of the left actually does. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #40

... LexVegas Dec 2016 #39

No it is rooted in reality dsc Dec 2016 #18

Yep Cosmocat Dec 2016 #30

Wow. Much words. betsuni Dec 2016 #21

I didn't say any person was right wing. I said an argument was right wing. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #25

Spreading the falsehood that Hillary prioritized social justice over economics is right-wing. DanTex Dec 2016 #27

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #44

"The minimum wage is too high" - Donald Trump ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #28

There is ample proof that those who voted for Trump did not care about the economy. Those Squinch Dec 2016 #31

Who needs the GOP when Democrats and Liberals sabotage their own platform with GOP talking points.. JHan Dec 2016 #32

To my mind, those who spew GOP talking points are not Democrats or Liberals. So there's that. Squinch Dec 2016 #33

I don't get it, this is self-sabotage that only weakens us... JHan Dec 2016 #35

Bingo on all counts. And it isn't unintentional. Squinch Dec 2016 #38

People making that argument still haven't looked at Hillary's policy pages BainsBane Dec 2016 #46

It was a good platform...but in the ads I saw, we didn't talk about it enough. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #50

I think the 'it ISN'T about racism and sexism" argument is, ultimately, a deeply right wing position ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #34

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #43

Racism and sexism played a role...I never said they played NO role.... Ken Burch Dec 2016 #49

How is the fact that Clinton won voters making under $50k a year BainsBane Dec 2016 #45

That fact, plus exit polls show that those who La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #47

In my life social justice has always been the overriding issue and always will be. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #51

In my life economic issues has always been the overriding issue. azmom Dec 2016 #52

That would be a great argument.... Adrahil Dec 2016 #53