2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why not more discussion of Greg Palast's compelling case that GOP stole 2016 election? [View all]CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)When we spout conspiracy theories which are devoid of facts, we are no better than those who do the same on the far right. For instance when Trump was blasted because he repeated the conspiracy theory that he lost the popular vote because "millions of people voted illegally", the counter was that those on the left were claiming the same thing except in reverse. And they are right.
It is true that the that the far left and the far right may have opposite ideologies, but their behavior, including the tendency to spout conspiracy theories, are very similar. See "Horseshoe Theory".
No one should publish crap on the internet until they are reasonably sure it is correct, that means AFTER an investigation is conducted, not before.
My undergraduate degree implies that I know math and I know from experience the "realities of registration, voter mobility, vetted purges, registration, mail-in or provisional ballot counts". If you read the many posts I have made on this OP, you will see that I do.
I never said a damn thing about "to accept the spirit of the claims made by election programmers, lawyers and other experts"; that was never brought up. The subject was never brought up; the entire discussion with the penguin was about the Palast BS.
However, I will says something about the recounts now. Sure I would like to see the results in the three states reversed, but I have next to no hope that will happen. The problem is that the irregularities in certain voting districts reported by "election programmers, lawyers and other experts" can be explained by the different demographics in those area. (See the article by Nate Silver on his 538 website:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/demographics-not-hacking-explain-the-election-results/
Demographics, Not Hacking, Explain The Election Results ]
I am glad that the recounts are in progress. At minimum they will restore faith in the US election system in the eyes of the world - and that is important. As I said, I would love for the election results to be reversed, but I am not holding my breath.
What we are seeing now on DU with all of the talk of election and voter fraud is a stage of grief called "bargaining". (Five stages of grief: Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.) There is nothing wrong with that, it is a natural process, but it is not okay to make fools of all Democrats by displaying your paranoia for all to see.