2016 Postmortem

JHan

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52. It is a combination of all those things..

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Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:35 PM

Dec 2016

Depending on how some view Clinton, they'll pick one of the reasons over the other.

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Democrats have to advance young leaders and go back to working-class roots [View all] portlander23 Dec 2016 OP

And 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 until a slew of posts are made calling those blue collar workers racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #1

that is a bunch of crap dsc Dec 2016 #2

Good luck in 2018 ... 2020 ... 2022 ... portlander23 Dec 2016 #3

then why did Feingold and Strickland lose? dsc Dec 2016 #5

Because Clinton was the top of the ticket portlander23 Dec 2016 #6

she did better than either one of them dsc Dec 2016 #8

The point of the article is illustrated in this conversation portlander23 Dec 2016 #9

well show me some actual evidence that these voters gave a damn about trade dsc Dec 2016 #12

The exit polls portlander23 Dec 2016 #16

No that is plain, flat out, gold carat false dsc Dec 2016 #18

Yep portlander23 Dec 2016 #20

You could bring all the evidence until you're blue in the face.. JHan Dec 2016 #51

She did worse than Obama among voters earning less than 50k. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #55

No... SidDithers Dec 2016 #24

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL JI7 Dec 2016 #39

Bingo. Trumpers voted for establishment GOP candidates radius777 Dec 2016 #49

the pro trade candidates did the best . better than trump. while anti trade dens did worst. worse JI7 Dec 2016 #40

Yep. stopbush Dec 2016 #11

Been saying it for years zipplewrath Dec 2016 #4

We need house and senate candidates to boldly say: PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #7

+1 portlander23 Dec 2016 #10

yeah it is a real winning message for Asians dsc Dec 2016 #13

Clearly a modern, updated version. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #15

the fact is the New Deal worked dsc Dec 2016 #17

We're into parody at this point portlander23 Dec 2016 #19

I am not saying economic justice has to have racism to exist dsc Dec 2016 #21

Clinton lost voters Obama won in 2012 and 2008 portlander23 Dec 2016 #23

Where are the Democratic leaders going into these communities? PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #32

Beshear won the area dsc Dec 2016 #45

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Dec 2016 #25

Exactly. The FDR party was a Dixiecrat party, radius777 Dec 2016 #50

Yes. And ignore the race-baiters who want to denigrate FDR. hueymahl Dec 2016 #28

this mike_c Dec 2016 #59

First they have to show an interest in the process WhiteTara Dec 2016 #14

I think it's the opposite. I think the left has to stop pointing at Clinton's loss kcr Dec 2016 #22

Progressives that want economic justice are not racists portlander23 Dec 2016 #26

Ok. Keep banging that drum. kcr Dec 2016 #29

Yes, the real losers of this election are exactly those people hueymahl Dec 2016 #33

According to the exit poll portlander23 Dec 2016 #34

Good post hueymahl Dec 2016 #31

Race is a real issue portlander23 Dec 2016 #35

Absolutely. hueymahl Dec 2016 #38

You lost me at "third way" mcar Dec 2016 #66

She opposed single payer, wanted a no fly zone where Russian planes were flying jfern Dec 2016 #78

I'll stop "smearing the party's nose in it" when the party... mike_c Dec 2016 #60

Blue collar workers are decreasing in number while white collar workers are increasing. LonePirate Dec 2016 #27

Sigh Me. Dec 2016 #30

What is wrong with adding economic justice to the platform? portlander23 Dec 2016 #36

Nothing Is Wrong With It Me. Dec 2016 #42

Saying we need economic justice portlander23 Dec 2016 #43

Due Respect Me. Dec 2016 #44

It is a combination of all those things.. JHan Dec 2016 #52

"While voters lost their homes, bankers kept their bonuses." Dems to Win Dec 2016 #37

Youth, yes. Organized labor, yes. Rural Dem outreach, yes. But enough with the WCW narrative. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #41

Yes, the platform was eminently better however... MaeScott Dec 2016 #46

Many people see immigration as an economic issue Dems to Win Dec 2016 #47

I don't get it...Obama was once referred to as "Deporter In Chief" JHan Dec 2016 #53

Numbers. 400,000 deported per year, millions remain in the country Dems to Win Dec 2016 #58

Let's remember our core values: JHan Dec 2016 #61

Yep, no human being is illegal. And it's right wing policies that lead to mass migrations. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #62

Core values include living wage jobs for working class Americans Dems to Win Dec 2016 #67

"tolerating illegal immigration".. JHan Dec 2016 #70

I'll add to that: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #73

thanks for those links Garrett... JHan Dec 2016 #74

When people's lived experiences conflict with economic studies, they believe their own eyes Dems to Win Dec 2016 #75

Yes people believe lots of things.. JHan Dec 2016 #76

It is an economic issue. Do away with undocumented workers and the US economy would collapse. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #63

In this 'uncollapsed' economy, half of Americans can't meet an unexpected $400 expense Dems to Win Dec 2016 #65

Fresh young leaders are important Dems to Win Dec 2016 #48

I disagee. The "Young Leaders" need to work their way up the latter jus like everyone else. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2016 #54

It sounds like you're saying they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps? OhioBlue Dec 2016 #68

Then we agree! Lil Missy Dec 2016 #72

aw heck - I left one word out and after re-reading it completely OhioBlue Dec 2016 #77

My advice? You and the author of this tripe should get over yourselves. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #56

For years I saw many people, including pundits and people on this very board, claiming Exilednight Dec 2016 #57

exactly. n/t OhioBlue Dec 2016 #69

I keep hearing this. But.... Adrahil Dec 2016 #64

Sum up Hillary's economic plan in 3 to 5 words. Exilednight Dec 2016 #71