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2016 Postmortem

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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:09 PM Dec 2016

BFD!!! [View all]

In a previous OP, someone lamented that Bernie was treated unfairly by the Democratic National Committee. To that post I replied with the following:

BFD!!! As in "BIG FUCKING DEAL!!!" So Democrats didn't like Bernie's candidacy and didn't want him to win. Who's fault is that? Bernie has been a fixture in Washington for since 1991 - that's 25 years for those who aren't good at math - and he had all that time to make friends and allies and cultivate supporters within the Democratic Party for his primary run. So why was "everyone against him"?

Maybe because from the start he was never a party member, though since he would have been completely isolated otherwise, he always caucused with the Democrats. Maybe it was because during his entire stint in Washington he chose to be an outsider, working with the Democrats only when it pleased him. Maybe it was because he has always been as critical of his Democratic colleagues as he was of the Republicans. Maybe it was because he had the gall to run for the Democratic nomination as an independent, trying to be the nominee of a party he never joined; I'm frankly surprised they even let him into the race.

Bernie and his supporters spent most of the primary season bitching and moaning about how unfair the super delegate system was. However, ironically in the end it was the the super delegates which allow him to pretend that he still had a slim chance to win during the last set of primaries and on into the convention. Otherwise, the race would have been over after the California primary. And by the way, most Democrats didn't appreciate the fact the Bernie refused to concede after it was clear that he had been beaten and many of us were very disappointed that Bernie chose to make his REVOLUTION primary above all other considerations.

Bernie lost fair and square. Nothing anyone did or tried to do deprived him of the nomination. In fact I can't point to a single primary in which he received the most votes from Democratic Party members. When he won primaries it was because he received the votes of independents who consider themselves too liberal to belong to the party and because he was the favorite of college age kids and other young people suffering under the crushing debt of their college loans. Why, because Bernie promised them government handouts which he could have never delivered even if he had won the Presidency.

But here is the bottom line - it is long past time to quit re-fighting the primaries. If Democrats don't bury the hatchet and unite without acrimony we will have no chance in 2018 or in 2020.

Cajun 12/4/16

Also posted on may blog - CajunsComments.com

BFD!!!

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BFD!!! [View all] CajunBlazer Dec 2016 OP
#Endorsed. JHan Dec 2016 #1
Amen! leftofcool Dec 2016 #2
..and the endless bashing continues.... TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #3
I saw an article on yahoo talking about how the DNC is working hard to prepare to lose again in 2020 rwsanders Dec 2016 #14
I don't trust Yahoo stories when it is clear it has an agenda question everything Dec 2016 #24
It was a link to somewhere else, but basically the idea was the DNC is not prepared to adjust rwsanders Dec 2016 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #31
Good work on 'uniting without acrimony.' elleng Dec 2016 #4
Is that all you have to say. Thanks for agreeing with my post. CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #25
Why does this OP exist? It seems that's the only way people can generate high View/Post counts TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #57
It exist because certain posters Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #72
That's a pretty weak reply. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #80
What's weak Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #86
Remember, it's our Party too. Exilednight Dec 2016 #83
Then respect those of us who were not for Bernie Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #87
The knife cuts both ways. Exilednight Dec 2016 #91
It wasn't just Hillary's fault...Bernie and many others had their hand in the dirty deed. Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #101
Bernie had no hand in Hillary going down. Exilednight Dec 2016 #102
The DNC and Hillary supporters didn't want Bernie Sanders. Millions of Democrats did. Congratz think Dec 2016 #5
The DNC Is Not Bernie Sanders Personal PR Agency otohara Dec 2016 #19
Not all single payer is going to work. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #68
Sanders supporters alienated themselves CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #26
That sounds like a winning strategy bekkilyn Dec 2016 #38
How about treating Sanders supporters as your equals? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #62
She got elected because she got more votes. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #69
Not elected, nominated. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #79
Except, she DIDN'T "get elected". BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #107
Guess what? DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #56
THAT misinformation campaign is the kind of thing REPUBLICANS do. BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #63
If that were true, he would have won the primary...he didn't Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #67
DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2016 #6
Why did Debbie Wasserman schultz resign the day before the convention? think Dec 2016 #7
To avoid being the story since the people screaming about the DNC bias mythology Dec 2016 #12
controversy...it was an attempt to try to heal division. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #70
So why are we recycling this again? HassleCat Dec 2016 #8
Because, unless you been living under a rock, you have noticed.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #28
I guess I was confused. HassleCat Dec 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #33
Tell you what Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #88
I guess we have to banish ourselves HassleCat Dec 2016 #99
K&R sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9
You notice Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #17
Oh yes indeed.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #34
Tell me what is constructive Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #89
I was amused when the Sanders savants celebrated Ralston's firing from his newspaper lapucelle Dec 2016 #10
Even O'Malley stated the DNC debate process was rigged. The DNC chose one candidate think Dec 2016 #11
Oh give it up, you're wasting your time CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #36
Thank you. I'm reading them Arazi Dec 2016 #52
Good lord.. JHan Dec 2016 #55
Sanders lost by 3,000,000 votes because the voters preferred Hillary. lapucelle Dec 2016 #64
So...how's that "unite without acrimony" drive going? FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #13
Why worry about unity when there's a shitty blog to be flogged? n/t QC Dec 2016 #20
If I wanted to push my "shitty" blog.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #37
I read your blog. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #71
That's a high complement....Thank you CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #75
Thank you Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #15
He Couldn't/Can't Call For Party Unity Like Hillary Did otohara Dec 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #39
That is not true and insulting towards Democrats. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #95
He is still not a democrat Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #90
That is why I am still so angry with Bernie...is it not enough he cost us 2016...does Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #73
And the Civil War re-enactors take the field again. mac56 Dec 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #40
Divide and Conquer Martin Eden Dec 2016 #22
And, he actively campaigned against Demcoratic candidates - Vermont governor, the most notorious question everything Dec 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #41
I'm not sure how to tell you this, but not all Democratics PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #27
No, the establishment didn't succeed, Sanders failed CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #44
Okay, then if you're right about Sanders failed, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #48
What did they do? BainsBane Dec 2016 #53
Let it go people, humbled_opinion Dec 2016 #29
and the republicans are enjoying seeing the split ......... Kathy M Dec 2016 #60
All you needed to have said was that last part... bekkilyn Dec 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #42
You're right of course, but I'm only human CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #45
Nobody knows the truth bekkilyn Dec 2016 #54
Don't be too discouraged, bekkilyn True Dough Dec 2016 #77
I hope you're right for all our sakes bekkilyn Dec 2016 #114
I too surprised "they" even let him in race, but it raised my opinion of Democratic establishment lostnfound Dec 2016 #43
Amen, brother Hekate Dec 2016 #47
Absolutely. Party insiders and elites pick first and do what they can to make that happen. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #49
Really? How do you explain that Bernie lost among Democratic party members.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #76
But the establishment did a whole lot of misrepresenting of Sanders AND mischaracterizing of JCanete Dec 2016 #97
The DNC has always been a reliable vehicle for Democrats. Hitchhikers oasis Dec 2016 #50
I know Sanders supporters love him and I respect that love but hrmjustin Dec 2016 #51
K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #58
If you want people to "bury the hatchet"...baiting them is the WORST way to achieve that. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #59
Agree Kathy M Dec 2016 #61
Then tell your Bernie brethren to lay off of the... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #78
Good plan! or maybe go with Gahndi's principle of "an eye for an eye will make the world go blind." JCanete Dec 2016 #98
You are right...I allow my disappointment in losing this election and I will admit it anger Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #65
"Long past time to quit re-fighting the primaries" Orsino Dec 2016 #66
Then tell your Bernie brethren to lay off of the... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #85
We will when Bernie supporters Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #92
Hint: I was responding to an OP. n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #93
Oh I know Coolest Ranger Dec 2016 #94
To be fair, he appealed to angry white dudes and look where many of them went. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #81
The Myths Democrats Swallowed That Cost Them The Presidential Election Gothmog Dec 2016 #82
K&R liquid diamond Dec 2016 #84
To think like this you have to have a far rosier view of our political system than actually exists. JCanete Dec 2016 #96
Sanders tried for 25 years to change the Party from the outside... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #103
Sanders ran as that outsider and affected DNC policy and Clinton's platform. JCanete Dec 2016 #104
No one is commenting on his integrity or his good work CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #105
That is a fair statement, but I'm pretty sure that Sanders got further than JCanete Dec 2016 #106
I totally agree, especially early on in his campaign CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #108
100 kebob Dec 2016 #100
What a laughable crock of BS from top to bottom. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #109
What a totally worthless post from someone who obviously... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #110
You could seriously give Trump some competition when it comes to bullshit mtnsnake Dec 2016 #111
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