2016 Postmortem

Larkspur

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193. Yet despite all the vetting HRC had, she still failed to win the White House

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:49 AM

Dec 2016

If she was so experienced, she should have been ready for any last minute dirty tricks by the GOP, but she was not.

She was a terrible campaigner in 2008 and she did not change in 2016.

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BREAKING: Bernie Sanders Lost [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2016 OP

Yeah, and the primaries are over; so what's the point? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #1

Have you been reading postmortem and the Hillary threads??? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #2

Right? mcar Dec 2016 #7

Hey mcar! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #20

Hey she! mcar Dec 2016 #21

You a good bud! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #27

Seems obvious. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #119

Hillary lost. sfwriter Dec 2016 #175

No, I haven't, and I see no reason to rehash all this. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #16

"Democratic Party leaders have been living in a bubble"? Let's see now.... George II Dec 2016 #34

I understand where you're coming from ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #99

Post of the Month!! Ligyron Dec 2016 #148

Oh yes! brer cat Dec 2016 #200

"Democrats lose elections because they are honest." mcar Dec 2016 #233

Errors by the candidate... what errors? Didn't you get the memo? Hillary ran a perfect campaign. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #120

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haha... yes! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #157

For the record, the post above was deleted in error EarlG Dec 2016 #208

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I appreciate your understanding EarlG Dec 2016 #219

This circular firing sqad the Dems are in does nothing... RiverStone Dec 2016 #124

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We must unify against that Orange Orangutan and ensure he fails in securing his racist agenda. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #158

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This is an insult to Orangutans!! BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #170

You got me there... my apologies to orangutans! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #212

Check out the 2016 Postmortem Forum, there are scads of "points" there. George II Dec 2016 #26

Thank you George II sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30

You like to cause trouble? sellitman Dec 2016 #3

This is an open forum. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #36

When someone decries it when people even question Hillary & *same day* posts truly incendiary, JudyM Dec 2016 #83

why yes it is, and that does not change the fact you seem to like causing trouble krawhitham Dec 2016 #90

Hillary Clinton LOST kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #4

Well she did not lose by 3.5 million. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #11

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Still he lost. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #46

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Lost by 3.5 million sheshe2 Dec 2016 #56

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The popular vote kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #42

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Yeah, we know. Cha Dec 2016 #75

All too well... why Bernie had the superior strategy and would have trounced tRump! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #159

... mcar Dec 2016 #234

But she did lose to the most unqualified presidential candidate in US history krawhitham Dec 2016 #92

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You know what says a lot if you'd paid attention? Hillary had gop Voter Suppression, Cha Dec 2016 #196

But HE did lose to the most qualified presidential candidate in US history. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #202

You mean the won who lost ? kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #231

Cripes TubbersUK Dec 2016 #5

I'll echo that. progressoid Dec 2016 #38

Triple. pangaia Dec 2016 #182

Breaking: Does it kill you that he is the only candidate to come out of the election "not dirty"? zonkers Dec 2016 #6

Where are his tax returns that he promised? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #10

As a white man, he can act pure WhiteTara Dec 2016 #22

I almost spit my wine on my computer. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #24

Now I understand why she was not qualified. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #39

No indeed. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #84

Bathroom humor can't distract from the fact she and Deb "dirtily" screwed him over good. zonkers Dec 2016 #152

Don't let the facts get in the way of bashing Bernie to fabricate fake excuses. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #160

Bernie was never vetted and the GOP had a whole book to throw at him had he won. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #104

Yet despite all the vetting HRC had, she still failed to win the White House Larkspur Dec 2016 #193

Yet despite all the vetting HRC had, she still failed to win the White House. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #199

If the nation is so racist, Barack Obama would NEVER have been President of the United Stataes Larkspur Dec 2016 #205

Nope because of, oddly enough BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #211

Mango Mussolini! mcar Dec 2016 #235

A majority of swing state voters thought she was Nevernose Dec 2016 #105

With a post like this I find it hard to believe that you ever supported Bernie. NWCorona Dec 2016 #117

Let's focus on the facist-elect's missing tax returns! RiverStone Dec 2016 #154

I think that's the real issue for some here. They just can't get past the fact that NWCorona Dec 2016 #115

Yes! The Democratic Party platform was so important !!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #8

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Nice, and welcome to DU! (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #15

They gone. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #18

*Is they*? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #187

You're cheering for Name Removed? R B Garr Dec 2016 #218

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I am positive you corrected the people posting all the anti Hillary posts. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #17

Thankfully, Bernie is still in the Senate fighting for us as part of the Democratic leadership. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #14

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Book tour. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #59

Yeah. Can't really see her traveling to Africa... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #63

You sound as petty as Trump saying Hillary is home taking a nap. R B Garr Dec 2016 #210

Wow. What the hell do you think the Clinton Foundation has been doing all these years? bettyellen Dec 2016 #230

Perhaps the millions she has poured into her foundation La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #215

I thought he was on a book tour. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41

Yes! The firey progessive will be in the senate fighting for the $10 minimum wage lapucelle Dec 2016 #55

Trump suggested $10; Bernie wants $15. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #106

On his book tour, Sanders told the Christian Science Monitor that he would work with Republicans lapucelle Dec 2016 #213

OMG, he doesn't have a magic wand!11!!!111 SMC22307 Dec 2016 #221

Sorry darlin', but I ain't buying what either you or the fiery progressive are selling. lapucelle Dec 2016 #227

2017. 32 states. All-time high for Republican control. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #232

Bernie will leave on his own terms. NWCorona Dec 2016 #122

The Clinton foundation does a lot of work helping La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #181

Aren't we supposed to refrain? HassleCat Dec 2016 #23

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SOP: "discuss why we lost in 2016 and what we need to do in the future." ucrdem Dec 2016 #37

Some replies show that not all the bad feelings have been forgotten. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #43

My dear friend ucrdem!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #44

heya sheshe!! ucrdem Dec 2016 #47

She reached out with both hands. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #65

K & R :D JHan Dec 2016 #25

Well then, he and Hillary have a lot in common, don't they? TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #29

Yeah well that helps a lot Va Lefty Dec 2016 #31

America lost putitinD Dec 2016 #32

K&R brer cat Dec 2016 #33

Seriously, get over it. LS_Editor Dec 2016 #35

Oh yes, he did, she. That's on him.. his message didn't resonate with Cha Dec 2016 #40

Thank you Cha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #53

Love you back. Cha Dec 2016 #73

Yes to all you said. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #78

In 1976 Ford defeated Reagan by 53%-46%. Ford lost to Carter. LostOne4Ever Dec 2016 #45

and the circular Me Me firing squad continues elmac Dec 2016 #49

Yawn. progressoid Dec 2016 #50

I'll be glad when you guys get this out of your system. MelissaB Dec 2016 #52

Us.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #62

I don't know what that means... "us"???? MelissaB Dec 2016 #79

Bwahahahahahahahhaha sheshe2 Dec 2016 #80

Yep! MelissaB Dec 2016 #85

I read, read....over and over and over. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #89

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Remind me again of just how early Clinton conceded PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #57

You don't remember? Reminder: She conceded on June 7 in 2008, she didn't wait until.... George II Dec 2016 #155

DU rec...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #58

Thank you Sid! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #60

**sigh** chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #61

Breaking. Hillary lost also. And it wasn't Bearnie's fault. Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #64

She won the popular vote by 2.5 mil sheshe2 Dec 2016 #67

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I only want Democrats in our primaries. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #74

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Open primaries are open to all. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #165

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Clinton won a majority of the open primaries. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #183

Right.. he only threw evey ugly thing he could at her in the primaries.. demonizing Cha Dec 2016 #87

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He only threw evey ugly thing he could at her in the primaries.. demonizing her Cha Dec 2016 #91

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Yeah, I passed right over your lame attempt to deflect. Cha Dec 2016 #97

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The biggest non answer ever! NWCorona Dec 2016 #127

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Some so want to make it seem like Bernie threw the kitchen sink at her but he was so reserved. NWCorona Dec 2016 #142

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yeah, he deflected poorly. Cha Dec 2016 #135

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In a healthy democracy, competition makes us stronger RiverStone Dec 2016 #146

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This is becoming childish... n/t tom_kelly Dec 2016 #66

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K & R SunSeeker Dec 2016 #69

Not in the polls. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #72

Kicked and recommended. WheelWalker Dec 2016 #76

when he lost he supported her DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #77

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K sheshe2 Dec 2016 #86

Yup! Probably because Bernie is able to fight on another day. NWCorona Dec 2016 #131

Unfortunately the demonizing was too drilled into too many of his fans' heads.. I saw Cha Dec 2016 #96

Lost because the fix was in, read some DNC emails krawhitham Dec 2016 #95

Lost because his message didn't resonate with the voters. this is all on him. Cha Dec 2016 #98

Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #100

lol ... now they're trying in vain to blame it on the DNC.. big bad DNC Cha Dec 2016 #109

You obviously didn't read the DNCleaks. Why did DWS step down again. NWCorona Dec 2016 #134

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Link? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #107

OH there's that gd word "establishment" again.. that got us trump in the WH.. I Cha Dec 2016 #113

Excellent Cha! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #125

BS lost in a landslide.. Hillary had 3.5 Million more votes than he did. Cha Dec 2016 #108

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No, this is all on BS.. he lost fair and square.. his message did not resonate with enough voters Cha Dec 2016 #111

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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud Cha Dec 2016 #116

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Bernies Press Secretary To Supporters: We Lost Fair & Square, ZERO Election Fraud Cha Dec 2016 #118

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... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #129

Symone D. Sanders Tweet.. I'm gonna take her word for it over his disgruntled fans.. Cha Dec 2016 #132

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Some, more than others. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #138

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Clinton won more open primaries than Sanders did. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #136

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Nothing suppresses votes as much as a caucus does. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #190

How did states limit and suppress the vote? George II Dec 2016 #156

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That's not true. In a number of states Democrats and independents were able to vote. In fact.... George II Dec 2016 #172

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She won Democrats 64-35 TwilightZone Dec 2016 #130

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Clinton won a majority of the open primaries. And you really ought to read this: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #185

So, using your reasoning. progressoid Dec 2016 #174

No, she lost bc BS demonized her for a over a year and trump picked up Cha Dec 2016 #178

BS demonized her? progressoid Dec 2016 #184

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #102

Yep portlander23 Dec 2016 #151

what a fracking shit storm a post like this can start. Nuts and Bolts about why juxtaposed Dec 2016 #153

Good post. Thanks. hueymahl Dec 2016 #162

So helpful! Thanks! Way to bring us all together in this difficult time!!!! ALBliberal Dec 2016 #164

if this were submitted in a college freshman English class NJCher Dec 2016 #168

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I'm so not in the mood to fight this out. RandySF Dec 2016 #176

Garbage content like this... Old Crow Dec 2016 #177

There, there now. Just take an aspirin pangaia Dec 2016 #179

And, let us remember, she.. that in 2008 Hillary gracioulsy conceded to Obama Cha Dec 2016 #180

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Bullfeathers.. Hillary happens to care very much about our Country. That wasn't even Cha Dec 2016 #188

LOL SMC22307 Dec 2016 #189

Wow, you really do just make things up. This is the type of out-of-touch R B Garr Dec 2016 #220

Say "Hillary haters" one more time. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #222

When you have to resort to obvious fabrications to justify irrational and uninformed R B Garr Dec 2016 #223

Obama held all the cards. joshcryer Dec 2016 #226

HRC strung out the 2008 primary long after it was mathematically improbable for her to win it Larkspur Dec 2016 #192

Hillary was classy in June 2008.. Much classier than BS' in July 2016 Cha Dec 2016 #194

No she was not classy. Larkspur Dec 2016 #206

Yes she was. Cha Dec 2016 #207

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Hillary cannot fail; she can only be failed by others. Larkspur Dec 2016 #191

Exactly. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #195

Kos's Nephalim nailed it.... said what needed to be said. Thanks for posting this. lamp_shade Dec 2016 #197

What percentage of Hillary's loss is Bernie's fault... chwaliszewski Dec 2016 #198

And thanks to Bernie losing, we have President Donald J Trump as President. jfern Dec 2016 #201

Democratic party Members only from now on.......thanks. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #203

Bernie folks, Bill Clinton and a lot of Progressives weighed in on how to win harun Dec 2016 #204

If you think we could have won an appeal to "white working class" Adrahil Dec 2016 #224

Exactly. And many voters don't feel the economy is working for them. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #225

I hope this made you feel better. sfwriter Dec 2016 #209

Sanders lost by over 3 million votes Gothmog Dec 2016 #214

Your mad lastone Dec 2016 #228

Yeah, this is productive. Barack_America Dec 2016 #229