2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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4. I suppose the only surprising thing for me is that so many are surprised by this revelation.

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 07:46 PM

Dec 2016

I'm deeply involved in a couple local racial justice organizations in my area precisely because it's been clear for a long time that racism (and sexism), as well as xenophobia (very much rooted in racism), continues to be a *HUGE* problem in the US. The Tea Party, for instance, only really took off because of racism.

The "working class whites/economic messaging" narrative is, as I've written numerous times, ridiculous (it withers under scrutiny). It's also quite disheartening.

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Sometimes the truth is obvious: we're a more racist and sexist country than we thought. [View all] DanTex Dec 2016 OP

I totally agree gollygee Dec 2016 #1

and add in the acceptance of that bigotry by the media JI7 Dec 2016 #2

Watching them normalize his cruel and idiotic rants was just too much. bettyellen Dec 2016 #5

He may not be good for America, 90-percent Dec 2016 #16

It seems to be what Americans want and like. It's hard to see otherwise! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #3

2.5 million more Americans voted for Hillary than Trump. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #12

Quite true, of course, but the vote for Trump was deplorable, so many like him. WTF! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #15

I suppose the only surprising thing for me is that so many are surprised by this revelation. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #4

I think you are absolutely right. Laurian Dec 2016 #6

Oh - and ableist! gollygee Dec 2016 #7

Trump got 62 m votes Pantagruel Dec 2016 #8

if you vote for a self-identified racist and misgoynist Skittles Dec 2016 #23

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #9

From post #7 above - "People liked him because he spoke his mind." 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #10

Sadly, I agree. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #11

K&R. Paladin Dec 2016 #13

I agree that this country tenisfin Dec 2016 #14

Well, we do know that elmac Dec 2016 #17

We also know that over 40% of eligibles didn't bother DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #34

I can only speak from my own experience, but... William Seger Dec 2016 #18

No we're not.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #19

That over 40% of eligibles didn't come out to vote... DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #35

I know a classic West Coast California Racist.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #39

how do we know what they think? treestar Dec 2016 #45

I'm more likely to believe the anti-NAFTA rustbelt line. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #48

We could bring back 90% tax on billionaires IronLionZion Dec 2016 #20

Practically no one ever actually paid that rate. Wouldnt do any good. 7962 Dec 2016 #29

That's a talking point... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #40

You're talking more corporate money than individual. 7962 Dec 2016 #43

I want to take away enough so they can't buy the government.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #47

Some people remember a time when the factory was humming, everybody had jobs, it was great Dems to Win Dec 2016 #21

does Taylor understand DONALD'S and IVANKA'S PRODUCTS ARE MADE OFFSHORE Skittles Dec 2016 #22

Trump voters believe he HAD to outsource... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #41

My gut reaction was to argue Nevernose Dec 2016 #24

Whatever flaws our candidate had, it was nothing compared to Trump's. LisaL Dec 2016 #25

They're used to having flaws! 7962 Dec 2016 #30

the bar is way higher for Democrats Skittles Dec 2016 #32

I don't know. Honest answer. Nevernose Dec 2016 #33

everyone is flawed, she has a better record than most people of doing good for others. the people JI7 Dec 2016 #36

there will always be racists and sexists but limbaugh and sons have been used certainot Dec 2016 #26

The only comfort is that, BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #27

Yep kebob Dec 2016 #28

I believe most of us knew it. We're just more racist and sexist than we ever wanted to admit. TonyPDX Dec 2016 #31

AMEN, you speak the Truth! n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #37

I think we all were kidding ourselves, believing that as a society COLGATE4 Dec 2016 #38

It was the BELTWAY MEDIA that has absolutely ZERO CLUE about the rest of America who pushed that... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #42

True and I've seen the theory that treestar Dec 2016 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #46

This is completely untrue mcar Dec 2016 #55

The truth hurts agalisgv Dec 2016 #49

I think there is a significant proportion that knew exactly how sexist and racist we are ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #50

Yet, we elected an Afraican American Twice RFKISNEEDED Dec 2016 #51

There was more to Clinton's loss ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #52

True, but racism wasn't on the ballot in 2012 like it was this year. DanTex Dec 2016 #53

The majority of the country wants empire Generic Brad Dec 2016 #54