2016 Postmortem

gejohnston

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20. conventional wisdom is that he would have

Reply to lunamagica (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 01:12 AM

Dec 2016

done better against Trump. I frankly think the opposite is true.

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What's with all the threads about Sanders? This is DU. He is NOT [View all] lunamagica Dec 2016 OP

Because BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #1

That was an "appointment," no one in the caucus elected him to anything. MADem Dec 2016 #2

It bothers me that he's still too cool for school BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #7

Either you're a Democrat ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #36

Saying we shouldn't listen to or consider political positions offered by democrank Dec 2016 #69

I totally agree with you..... dembychoice Dec 2016 #73

Bernie will not help us win. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #100

The problem has never been that the Democrats were not open to different people. Quite the contrary. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2016 #115

Well, there's a reason Barney Frank called him a pain in the ass BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #80

Here's the idea, to paraphrase LBJ.... MADem Dec 2016 #43

He really get under your skin. I can see that. pangaia Dec 2016 #55

.... Om .... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #65

The fact that you said that suggests that you're the one with the rash, not me. nt MADem Dec 2016 #70

Yes...I think Schumer and Reid before him have handled him well BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #74

Where else is he going to go with his liberal views; the GOP? politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2016 #114

Sanders' Democratic leadership position.... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #5

PERHAPS. elleng Dec 2016 #42

LOL SMC22307 Dec 2016 #47

Oh gee, I hope it's not THAT loony, elleng Dec 2016 #50

The GOP was going to bury him with oppo research... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #52

RIght, one of THOSE places! elleng Dec 2016 #94

Golda who?! SMC22307 Dec 2016 #98

Oh my goodness! elleng Dec 2016 #99

Completely agree. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #103

Not ANY kibbutz. It was a Stalin-friendly one. MADem Dec 2016 #105

He and his team wouldn't have shrinked from attacks... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #108

And he would have been mocked and eaten alive. MADem Dec 2016 #109

Wouldn't surprise me. pangaia Dec 2016 #56

Me, neither. But before SS and Medicare... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #59

K&R dembychoice Dec 2016 #118

Well, since Hillary isn't in office, it's good to keep up... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #3

I am pretty sure Warren and the rest of the Dems can handle that. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #9

The more voices the merrier. Especially with Hillary no longer in public office. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #10

Leadership position. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #11

Goodness, just how sour are those grapes? (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #13

It won't matter how beneficial he is in fighting Trump b/c many believe he cost someone her crown. MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #16

Well, they better get over it quick... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #18

Were you PISSED and humiliated when Bernie lost the primary? R B Garr Dec 2016 #26

'Crown', huh? JSup Dec 2016 #32

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #39

Goodness! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #17

He and his supporters are the convenient scapegoat. JudyM Dec 2016 #87

Yep. One of many scapegoats. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #101

Let's hope he does a better job than in the primary. He lost that contest and in the process R B Garr Dec 2016 #25

Trump says a lot of things. Why do you believe him? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #29

See, this is a perfect example of how out of touch you sound. R B Garr Dec 2016 #40

How many "embittered Sanders supporters went to Trump"? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #44

The primary lasted almost a year. Did you catch any of it? Any news? R B Garr Dec 2016 #48

People say a lot of things. Neither of us know what they actually did. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #51

Sigh. More out of touch denials from you. There is a Bernie Sanders group here. R B Garr Dec 2016 #54

It's tragic that 300,000+ Florida Democrats voted for Bush rather than Gore. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #57

You can't spell Sanders without Nader. R B Garr Dec 2016 #60

Speaking of Florida, why did Hillary lose a state that Obama carried twice? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #62

Speaking of losing. Why did Bernie lose California, a state Hillary carried twice? R B Garr Dec 2016 #85

Advantages, not "perfectness," of Scandinavian democratic socialism. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #106

To heck with Denmark. Bernie couldn't even get it passed in Vermont. R B Garr Dec 2016 #110

'You can't spell Sanders without Nader' -- thread winner ucrdem Dec 2016 #64

Hillary lost 32 Iowa counties carried by Obama in 2012. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #66

The point is that by running hard against Clinton, from within her own party, ucrdem Dec 2016 #67

Hillary came in third after Obama and John Edwards in Iowa's 2008 caucus. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #112

Why couldn't Bernie get single payer passed in Vermont? His adopted home state with a measly R B Garr Dec 2016 #86

oops ucrdem Dec 2016 #61

Didn't he already cave on minimum wage? leftofcool Dec 2016 #63

No. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #111

Why not Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #4

he may not be a card carrying Champion Jack Dec 2016 #6

Bernie is more of a Democrat, than most Democrats! putitinD Dec 2016 #27

Thread win. We seem to have forgotten our deepest values. JudyM Dec 2016 #88

I think we've been through this over and over again already. longship Dec 2016 #8

Well.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #14

Well, she, you won't find me trashing her. longship Dec 2016 #19

I am angry. I am hurt. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #23

I understand, my good friend. longship Dec 2016 #24

Many of us will not survive. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30

I am dead if they kill Medicare. longship Dec 2016 #34

Why not use the tools Skinner, et al. have so kindly provided? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #33

Lol! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #35

You admit up-thread that you're tired. Rather than complain... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #38

Well yes. I am tired. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41

My pleasure. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #45

I think we're being told to bow down again. R B Garr Dec 2016 #49

Yes, and someone is the Dems Savior because they caucus with the Dems, and they will save Fla Dem Dec 2016 #96

lol melman Dec 2016 #90

LOL SMC22307 Dec 2016 #113

LOL! Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #83

And what about your incessant trashing of Bernie and his supporters? You can't see that's generating JudyM Dec 2016 #89

but are prefectly fine with, or blind to the opposite? Nobody polices their own here, JCanete Dec 2016 #102

Uhh... the Goldwater girl is a "lifelong Democrat" GummyBearz Dec 2016 #53

Does a D next to his name mean more than what he is fighting for on our behalf? PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #12

Exactly. And as he's fighting Trump to protect SS and Medicare... SMC22307 Dec 2016 #15

Truth. Welcome to DU, PatsFan! JudyM Dec 2016 #92

conventional wisdom is that he would have gejohnston Dec 2016 #20

Enough guys. Hillary and Bernie are both great Democrats/Democrat caucus members. StevieM Dec 2016 #21

Fellow traveller HassleCat Dec 2016 #22

Better Democrat than MOST Democrats. Bernie truly is for the middle class. putitinD Dec 2016 #31

And renewable energy. JudyM Dec 2016 #93

He is important. He speaks for a great many Democrats. And better yet applegrove Dec 2016 #28

It's puzzling to me that so few of our political leaders are publicly challenging tRump. Warren is, JudyM Dec 2016 #95

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #37

What's with all the threads about Donald Trump? He is NOT a Republican. cer7711 Dec 2016 #46

Millions of Democrats voted for him to be presidential nominee. David__77 Dec 2016 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Dec 2016 #68

Ah yes kcdoug1 Dec 2016 #71

If Sanders had won, I would have found myself voting for a flawed candidate. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #72

Because frazzled Dec 2016 #75

You felt it necessary to start another OP about Bernie just to say this? stone space Dec 2016 #76

Lots of people on DU aren't Democrats Bad Dog Dec 2016 #77

Correct. He's an Underground Democrat. N/t yodermon Dec 2016 #78

And we dont like click bait randr Dec 2016 #79

Yet votes more like a Democrat then many carrieing the lable FreakinDJ Dec 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #82

But he fights for Democratic principles, and we need as many people like that as we can get! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #84

Maybe you should read the Terms of Service again. TransitJohn Dec 2016 #91

Oh people are grieving ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #97

I strongly agree with your analysis and conclusions Gothmog Dec 2016 #104

I honestly wonder if democrats WANT to continue losing. FourScore Dec 2016 #107

Since when did we only talk about Democrats? gollygee Dec 2016 #116