2016 Postmortem

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And Clinton wasn't being piped into every home either. boston bean Nov 2016 #1

Exactly bravenak Nov 2016 #3

It was 10::1 email bullshit vs policy. And of that policy, 8-10 bettyellen Nov 2016 #5

Whoever ran against Trump would have faced the most biased media ever rurallib Nov 2016 #9

That's the thing. I never seemed to see anything of Hillary. LisaM Nov 2016 #12

She did that to herself. 95% of her commercials were about how Trump was unqualified. MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #39

I'm talking about media coverage, not commercials. LisaM Nov 2016 #45

Fair enough, but since the media wasn't being fair, why didn't she take advantage of her resources? MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #46

Thread's about media coverage of Dem Primary. Go start a thread about how bad HRC's GE ads were, it emulatorloo Nov 2016 #68

in certain states... berksdem Nov 2016 #76

Hillary did not want to be piped into everyone's homes Larkspur Nov 2016 #99

I am damn tired of hearing Bernie's whines about blackouts and other assorted bullshit bravenak Nov 2016 #2

His speeches were covered on cable news. in their entirety most times. He was on more news shows boston bean Nov 2016 #6

Everyday his ass was on my tv yelling and slamming the democratic party bravenak Nov 2016 #10

Right? ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #24

I have a good impression of him too bravenak Nov 2016 #26

Heh! ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #30

Yes he was, it was a very selective one that often came pre significant primaries and post victories JCanete Nov 2016 #29

Not according to this Harvard study. progressoid Nov 2016 #70

Yes, O Malley got the worst of it. A real shame. bettyellen Nov 2016 #8

I really liked him tol bravenak Nov 2016 #11

He still is awesome ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #25

I know I've made this point incessantly, but when he was campaigning in Seattle LisaM Nov 2016 #16

And it was the exact same speech everytime bravenak Nov 2016 #19

Gee I wonder why he has such crowds then eh? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #91

They liked that speech. I wasn't in the crowd and would not have been bravenak Nov 2016 #112

They attracted the SAME people MFM008 Nov 2016 #62

I was at the Seattle and Portland rallies. He definitely hit on a lot NWCorona Nov 2016 #66

He has a book coming out. grossproffit Nov 2016 #38

Oh. Well, no wonder he cant stfu bravenak Nov 2016 #40

There definitely was a black out and I'm not a liberal white person. NWCorona Nov 2016 #44

Let It Go Bernie Me. Nov 2016 #4

Boo fucking hoo. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #7

Yes, it was reported. And even as a Hillary supporter, it didn't change... moriah Nov 2016 #80

Last fall on ABC News Trump got 81 minutes of coverage. Bernie got 20 seconds..... think Nov 2016 #13

I think we can all agree they spent way too much time on Trump. LisaM Nov 2016 #17

.. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #14

Looking at who controls the media in this country I'm not surprised at all. This country is going RKP5637 Nov 2016 #15

The damaged male ego frazzled Nov 2016 #18

I agree bravenak Nov 2016 #20

Because having separate messages for every demographic group worked for Hillary? MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #50

I disagree frazzled Nov 2016 #59

Pretty sexist statement there Frazzled hueymahl Nov 2016 #60

I am not particularly amused by your comment frazzled Nov 2016 #65

Nor was I amused by a sexist statement hueymahl Nov 2016 #67

Because I do believe it is a male issue frazzled Nov 2016 #75

Thanks for the explanation hueymahl Nov 2016 #77

He's not "doing" it because he's a man. He's "getting away with it" because he is. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #85

I agree that Sanders is responsible for losing the primary election. David__77 Nov 2016 #90

Welcome to being a Democrat Bernie. We are already well aware of how the right wing media works. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #21

Don't bother with facts around here, G_j. elleng Nov 2016 #22

It was a big party and Bernie wasn't invited. He needed to kiss more corporate ass to get on TV. jalan48 Nov 2016 #23

The irony is that Bernie was also the beneficiary of the corporate media the same way R B Garr Nov 2016 #27

This .... BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #48

Deplorable. Beartracks Nov 2016 #28

Bernie gave the same speech for a year BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #31

I don't think he has much to complain about. LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #93

I agree BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #96

no wonder I rarely post here anymore G_j Nov 2016 #32

Don't go. progressoid Nov 2016 #74

thanks, I still lurk G_j Nov 2016 #81

Bye...nt SidDithers Nov 2016 #88

glad to see G_j Nov 2016 #92

He had the same speech over and over and over again. Nothing to report most of the time. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #33

here's a thought--run a candidate who is really media savvy. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #34

Yes. Though at what price? Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #43

WHAT media blackout? DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #35

Be informed retrowire Nov 2016 #49

That was before the primary campaigns went into full gear and totally omits mention of Clinton.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #55

Oh no doubt she got more negative press retrowire Nov 2016 #84

Negative press might be better if it's repeating what you said - like they do for trump.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #111

Fairer coverage is nice and all retrowire Nov 2016 #113

Exactly n/t DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #109

the TEEVEE GNEWS MASSAGED the results of the election for MAXIMUM RATINGS PERIOD. pansypoo53219 Nov 2016 #36

the GOP is also the enemy, and yes, they are in league with the TV assholes Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #42

Bernie was and is on TV more than any other poltiician BainsBane Nov 2016 #37

Trump got 81 minutes of air time on ABC News compared to 20 seconds for Bernie last year think Nov 2016 #47

Pesky facts NWCorona Nov 2016 #51

If only they were facts. But they're not. George II Nov 2016 #97

What are the true numbers then? NWCorona Nov 2016 #101

I didn't post the original (unsourced!) numbers, perhaps you should ask Think? George II Nov 2016 #106

Excuse me? think Nov 2016 #107

ten minutes total? BainsBane Nov 2016 #54

Yes. He got 10 minutes total of prime time news coverage on the major networks, ABC, NBC, CBS. think Nov 2016 #57

Wow, I did not realize that hueymahl Nov 2016 #63

That isn't the primary BainsBane Nov 2016 #72

81 minutes compared to 20 seconds on ABC NEWS. Is it that hard to see the massive difference think Nov 2016 #82

The facts are you made false claims BainsBane Nov 2016 #95

Eichenwald blatantly omits the new exclusion rule which forbid candidates from being in non sanction think Nov 2016 #98

I'm still confused at the refusal tom_kelly Nov 2016 #100

Thank you. It baffles me also. /nt think Nov 2016 #102

Like the old saying goes, "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up!" jalan48 Nov 2016 #103

I stopped watching Rachel Maddow after the Michigan primary, where she essentially ignored his Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #41

When Trump first launched his campaign many in the media wanted to file it under "Entertainment". Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #52

Speaking from my own experience, BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #53

Luckily we don't need to rely on people's experiences. Kentonio Nov 2016 #56

Link to the study? Would love to read it. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #71

I believe this is it, G_j Nov 2016 #104

Thanks G_j, appreciate it! emulatorloo Nov 2016 #108

The media coverage of Bernie's campaign.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #58

The media wanted this ass wad MFM008 Nov 2016 #61

He is correct..and no neither was Clinton. INdemo Nov 2016 #64

There was more media coverage of Sanders than there was of Clinton. In fact prior to the convention George II Nov 2016 #69

Yes, for media, it was pretty much GOP Primary 24/7. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #73

He stuns rather easily. johnp3907 Nov 2016 #78

The corporate corrption is systemic wundermaus Nov 2016 #79

We had plenty of bernie and his bro's in the Democratic Primary... stonecutter357 Nov 2016 #83

And his sisters too, no? David__77 Nov 2016 #87

What's true is that Sanders lost the primary and Clinton lost the general election. David__77 Nov 2016 #86

He and Clinton have one thing in common. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2016 #89

I am tired of whining and tired of excuses! CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #94

Some "blackout." He was all over the place in the media. duffyduff Nov 2016 #105

I am so heartily sick and tired of this bullshit DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #110

I honestly don't get his appeal at this point. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #114