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pat_k

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5. Nebraska and Maine don't do "winner-takes-all"
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:29 AM
Nov 2016

Last edited Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:25 AM - Edit history (1)

The proportional idea gets floated here and there. Nebraska and Maine don't have a proportional system, but they do "divide" their electors (see below).

Even if all the states decided to allocate electors proportionally, the votes cast in some states would still be given more weight than votes cast in other states. That's because the number of electors assigned to a state is equal to the Congressional delegation (Members of House + two Senators). So, Wyoming, with population of about 500,000 (typical congressional district is about 700,000) has three electors. The upshot is that the votes cast by people in less populous states (which tend to be "red&quot are given more weight. For example, one "WY vote" is worth four "CA votes."

The only way to give all votes -- whatever state they are cast in -- equal weight is to elect the president based on the national popular vote.

And, just an FYI, here's how NE and ME divvy up their electors.

From: https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html

Only two states, Nebraska and Maine, do not follow the winner-takes-all rule. In those states, there could be a split of Electoral votes among candidates through the state’s system for proportional allocation of votes. For example, Maine has four Electoral votes and two Congressional districts. It awards one Electoral vote per Congressional district and two by the state-wide, “at-large” vote. It is possible for Candidate A to win the first district and receive one Electoral vote, Candidate B to win the second district and receive one Electoral vote, and Candidate C, who finished a close second in both the first and second districts, to win the two at-large Electoral votes. Although this is a possible scenario, it has not actually happened.

Please note that they're all blue states. hedda_foil Nov 2016 #1
Passed Repub Arizona House (40-16) and Repub Oklahoma Senate (28-18) pat_k Nov 2016 #3
Nebraska and Maine don't do "winner-takes-all" pat_k Nov 2016 #5
The difference between proportionality and those two is gerrymandering FBaggins Nov 2016 #18
Not a fan of this approach MichMan Nov 2016 #2
All this means is the winner of the vote wins the election. No other country has such Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #4
Disagree with the Electoral College if you must... FBaggins Nov 2016 #19
I didn't know that about the Brits. But they are the ancestors of the American Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #20
True... but they're hardly the only example FBaggins Nov 2016 #22
If the compact states were barely 270 votes, the entire system would be unstable and probably fail tritsofme Nov 2016 #6
We have a habit of not thinking ahead on matters like this davidn3600 Nov 2016 #8
The problem is, the "balance" is severely tilted. pat_k Nov 2016 #10
But if you don't like the system, you have to change it. There is a process. davidn3600 Nov 2016 #13
??? pat_k Nov 2016 #9
If the compact states are at 270 or just barely over, it would be incredibly unstable and vulnerable tritsofme Nov 2016 #12
It is not actually enacted as a "compact"... pat_k Nov 2016 #14
Then we should never pass a law marylandblue Nov 2016 #15
The last time a republican won the popular vote was Bush 2004. It is probably not Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #21
Many constitutional scholors have suggested this is unconstitutional davidn3600 Nov 2016 #7
Passed Repub Arizona House (40-16) and Repub Oklahoma Senate (28-18) pat_k Nov 2016 #11
P.S. pat_k Nov 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author jfern Nov 2016 #17
This proposal ends up being as odd as the electoral college. IphengeniaBlumgarten Nov 2016 #23
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