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2016 Postmortem

MichMan

(13,230 posts)

2. Not a fan of this approach

Reply to pat_k (Original post)

Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:50 AM

Nov 2016

So for instance a state that voted in large numbers for the candidate that lost the national popular vote would be forced to pledge the delegates to the candidate that actually lost in their state.

For example, Bush won the popular vote over Kerry in 2004. Kerry won California by 1.25 million votes, but the state would be required to assign all of their EC votes to Bush even though California citizens voted overwhelmingly for Kerry.

If all 50 states agreed, this would make every election unanimous even if the popular vote was extremely close. Not sure a lot of voters would think that was acceptable.

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National Popular Vote Interstate Compact [View all] pat_k Nov 2016 OP

Please note that they're all blue states. hedda_foil Nov 2016 #1

Passed Repub Arizona House (40-16) and Repub Oklahoma Senate (28-18) pat_k Nov 2016 #3

Nebraska and Maine don't do "winner-takes-all" pat_k Nov 2016 #5

The difference between proportionality and those two is gerrymandering FBaggins Nov 2016 #18

Not a fan of this approach MichMan Nov 2016 #2

All this means is the winner of the vote wins the election. No other country has such Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #4

Disagree with the Electoral College if you must... FBaggins Nov 2016 #19

I didn't know that about the Brits. But they are the ancestors of the American Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #20

True... but they're hardly the only example FBaggins Nov 2016 #22

If the compact states were barely 270 votes, the entire system would be unstable and probably fail tritsofme Nov 2016 #6

We have a habit of not thinking ahead on matters like this davidn3600 Nov 2016 #8

The problem is, the "balance" is severely tilted. pat_k Nov 2016 #10

But if you don't like the system, you have to change it. There is a process. davidn3600 Nov 2016 #13

??? pat_k Nov 2016 #9

If the compact states are at 270 or just barely over, it would be incredibly unstable and vulnerable tritsofme Nov 2016 #12

It is not actually enacted as a "compact"... pat_k Nov 2016 #14

Then we should never pass a law marylandblue Nov 2016 #15

The last time a republican won the popular vote was Bush 2004. It is probably not Maraya1969 Nov 2016 #21

Many constitutional scholors have suggested this is unconstitutional davidn3600 Nov 2016 #7

Passed Repub Arizona House (40-16) and Repub Oklahoma Senate (28-18) pat_k Nov 2016 #11

P.S. pat_k Nov 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author jfern Nov 2016 #17

This proposal ends up being as odd as the electoral college. IphengeniaBlumgarten Nov 2016 #23