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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Possibly the most important thing: Dems need to get better at the propaganda wars. [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)12. That's pretty much what I'm saying, yes.
Yes, propagandizing doesn't come naturally to liberals because we actually believe in truth. But, look, this is a propaganda war. The stakes are very high, when we lose, like we just did, lots of bad things happen to millions of people.
I also realize that Weiner and Grayson have gone down in flames, but that's for reasons entirely separate from their flamboyant speech.
Besides, I think that congress is the wrong place to be making those kind of flamboyant speeches. It comes off as grandstanding. So maybe Grayson is a bad example, but I think his talking point could have been a successful one. The correct place for blunt attacks on the GOP is in the media, and preferably done by surrogates, not elected officials.
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Possibly the most important thing: Dems need to get better at the propaganda wars. [View all]
DanTex
Nov 2016
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This is the absolute truth! It is the Propaganda Campaign that has had control over us since
The Wielding Truth
Nov 2016
#4
Please note that the definition says "especially," not "exclusively,"
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#37
Not sure why you're talking of "gnashing teeth with fiery bromides and exaggerated promises"
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#53
Yup. And I'm starting to think that Obama's political genius in a way had the unfortunate
DanTex
Nov 2016
#13
Absolutely, although that isn't a popular opinion on here. Most think "being right" is enough...
MadDAsHell
Nov 2016
#10
I have a very high opinion of Obama as well. And I agree about the white patriarchy.
DanTex
Nov 2016
#19
I agree. Rational arguments do not win elections. They don't sell products.
KittyWampus
Nov 2016
#26
I agree we need drastic improvemnt in framing, focused messaging and MEMES. Not propaganda. n/t
Turn CO Blue
Nov 2016
#36
Establishment isn't about how long you've been in DC. Hillary was obviously more establishment.
jfern
Nov 2016
#51
Yep. Some will call 'em Trump Chumps, some will call them "alt right" some say neo-fascist
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#47