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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Possibly the most important thing: Dems need to get better at the propaganda wars. [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)7. Definition of propaganda
Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view
So, you're saying that we need to exaggerate, mislead, or outright lie to strengthen our position? Yes, propaganda can be very successfuluntil it is exposed as such. It is highly unsavory as well. It's not what I want for my party. We are Democrats because we are honest, truthful, and upstanding.
Propaganda works better on Republicans, because it appeals to their base instincts to begin with. Democrats, as a rule, have better instincts. And remember ... when they go low, we go high. I absolutely reject the idea of stooping to their level.
And no, Alan Grayson is not a good example to put forth for successful speechifying. I realize a lot of people like these knock-down, loud-mouthed types. It hasn't worked so well. There were many cheers for Anthony Weiner and Alan Grayson here for quite a few years because of their flamboyant speech. Both have gone down in flames.
So, you're saying that we need to exaggerate, mislead, or outright lie to strengthen our position? Yes, propaganda can be very successfuluntil it is exposed as such. It is highly unsavory as well. It's not what I want for my party. We are Democrats because we are honest, truthful, and upstanding.
Propaganda works better on Republicans, because it appeals to their base instincts to begin with. Democrats, as a rule, have better instincts. And remember ... when they go low, we go high. I absolutely reject the idea of stooping to their level.
And no, Alan Grayson is not a good example to put forth for successful speechifying. I realize a lot of people like these knock-down, loud-mouthed types. It hasn't worked so well. There were many cheers for Anthony Weiner and Alan Grayson here for quite a few years because of their flamboyant speech. Both have gone down in flames.
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Possibly the most important thing: Dems need to get better at the propaganda wars. [View all]
DanTex
Nov 2016
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This is the absolute truth! It is the Propaganda Campaign that has had control over us since
The Wielding Truth
Nov 2016
#4
Please note that the definition says "especially," not "exclusively,"
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#37
Not sure why you're talking of "gnashing teeth with fiery bromides and exaggerated promises"
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#53
Yup. And I'm starting to think that Obama's political genius in a way had the unfortunate
DanTex
Nov 2016
#13
Absolutely, although that isn't a popular opinion on here. Most think "being right" is enough...
MadDAsHell
Nov 2016
#10
I have a very high opinion of Obama as well. And I agree about the white patriarchy.
DanTex
Nov 2016
#19
I agree. Rational arguments do not win elections. They don't sell products.
KittyWampus
Nov 2016
#26
I agree we need drastic improvemnt in framing, focused messaging and MEMES. Not propaganda. n/t
Turn CO Blue
Nov 2016
#36
Establishment isn't about how long you've been in DC. Hillary was obviously more establishment.
jfern
Nov 2016
#51
Yep. Some will call 'em Trump Chumps, some will call them "alt right" some say neo-fascist
LaydeeBug
Nov 2016
#47