2016 Postmortem

bravenak

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23. The only thing that works on them is when they have no other choice

Sun Nov 27, 2016, 03:53 PM

Nov 2016

Once Trump has his own supporters in the streets calling for his blood will we be able to slip some progressive policy through. Best to just wait and whip them up into a frothy mess of anger over him taking their medicare and ss. They hate that shit, we might need to start astroturfing republicans and stop playing so nicey nicey. With 'nonprofit' orgs and superpacs with deceptively republican names to get them to donate to fight their own candidates. I should start one and name it 'Americans for keeping librul hands off my Medicare' superpac.

And we might need to play hardball for the forseeable future. All we need to do is trick them into getting pissed at their own people and sit back and watch the firing squad begin. Wont happen until we stop fighting each other and acting all despondent. We dont even need to lure Trump voters. Just depress their turn out by making them hate trump and you know they love to hate.

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And FYI? Voting for a racist asshole makes you a racist asshole. Even if you lost yr job. [View all] bravenak Nov 2016 OP

Yes. If you voted for donald the crook, you are either overtly racist and sexist, or Squinch Nov 2016 #1

Absolutely bravenak Nov 2016 #2

1, "you have unexamined racism and sexism that you don't admit to yourself." YES !!!! uponit7771 Nov 2016 #46

Not only are they racist, but cowardly, rusty fender Nov 2016 #3

It's scary how badly they want to play pretend. bravenak Nov 2016 #4

Ain't it ?? and make others feel bad for not playing along lunasun Nov 2016 #8

Trying to guilt trip us for simply noticing that Trumps voters are the most racist group this race bravenak Nov 2016 #10

Ouch!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #5

Hope so. They have seemingly been enjoying themselves. bravenak Nov 2016 #7

1000! mcar Nov 2016 #6

Along these lines- Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #9

This big time oasis Nov 2016 #117

Yes they are. we can do it Nov 2016 #11

even those of color that voted trump Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #12

Seriously? oberliner Nov 2016 #14

if you vote to empower racists, that makes you a racist Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #35

An African-American who votes for Trump is racist against African-Americans? oberliner Nov 2016 #42

I have seen both bravenak Nov 2016 #45

"Their blacks;" wtf does that mean??? NOONE fuckin owns us. Suggest you self-delete. nt MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #53

Ask anne coulter bravenak Nov 2016 #54

And DT mcar Nov 2016 #56

I watched that too bravenak Nov 2016 #58

Yes mcar Nov 2016 #61

Me neither bravenak Nov 2016 #62

I know bunches of them here in red FL mcar Nov 2016 #65

Keep reminding them of what Trump is going to take bravenak Nov 2016 #66

Yep. And if/when the sociopath starts a war mcar Nov 2016 #72

He better not even try it bravenak Nov 2016 #73

My sister said she'd row the boat mcar Nov 2016 #75

I honestly wouldn't put it past Trump and the Repubs to start up a war and a draft bravenak Nov 2016 #76

Trump would start a war cause someone was mean to him on Twitter mcar Nov 2016 #77

I hope they feel real real good about themselves when Trump starts rounding up muslims and mexicans bravenak Nov 2016 #82

They voted their "conscience" mcar Nov 2016 #86

I wont throw them any life preservers because my conscience wont allow me to help trumphumpers bravenak Nov 2016 #89

ABSOLUTELY !! Plenty of black people who don't like black culture or black people.... uponit7771 Nov 2016 #47

slaves told on slaves to their masters heaven05 Nov 2016 #57

Yep bravenak Nov 2016 #18

There's that Chitown Kev Nov 2016 #25

Do you think every single person who voted for Trump is a racist asshole? oberliner Nov 2016 #13

My black cousin hates mexicans so he voted for Trump. Yes. Or sexism. bravenak Nov 2016 #16

That is disturbing oberliner Nov 2016 #19

Yep. And easy to forget the nuances of the intraracial problems we have bravenak Nov 2016 #20

amen, which is why I fear not taking those forces to task, rather than their spawn. nt JCanete Nov 2016 #21

The only thing that works on them is when they have no other choice bravenak Nov 2016 #23

I'll contribute! I hate those libruls! nt JCanete Nov 2016 #24

Let's start a SUPERPAC!!!!! bravenak Nov 2016 #26

Yes - it is easy to hide from it and forget or ignore it. But it exists. n/t whopis01 Nov 2016 #38

Huh? oberliner Nov 2016 #43

And I am agreeing with you. n/t whopis01 Nov 2016 #44

The plural of anecdote isn't data mythology Nov 2016 #68

I can argue that voting for an openly racist prick says something about that voters views on race bravenak Nov 2016 #70

A most petulant form of merely saying "those who vote for a racist are racist." LanternWaste Nov 2016 #131

Yup. In the history of NYC, and of America, and of the world, you see this happen all the time. DanTex Nov 2016 #125

Yes they are both racists and misogynists or idiots. lark Nov 2016 #30

ABSOLUTELY !! Plenty of black people who don't like black culture or black people.... uponit7771 Nov 2016 #48

Here is a message I sent to Behind The Aegis which sheds some light on the phenomenon. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2016 #106

I put fuhrer voters in two buckets. Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #15

Me too bravenak Nov 2016 #17

The original fuhrer got no more than 1/3 of the votes of 1932. gordianot Nov 2016 #22

Really? HassleCat Nov 2016 #27

No thats dumb bravenak Nov 2016 #28

Voting pro-feminist and pro-progressive doesn't make you a feminist or progressive per se. lark Nov 2016 #31

It doesn't mean you "absolutely support both of those policies/practices" Exilednight Nov 2016 #74

K&R mountain grammy Nov 2016 #29

and the truth heaven05 Nov 2016 #32

I swear some people actually think we need to bow down and pander to these crazy people bravenak Nov 2016 #41

My vote did not count heaven05 Nov 2016 #50

Glad he thinks black folks have nothing to lose bravenak Nov 2016 #51

So I guess that means all liberals are gun grabbing baby killers NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #33

where did the op mention "rural people"?. . .n/t annabanana Nov 2016 #34

When they added the bit about jobs they made it about rural voters who are desperate financially NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #94

Yes they were. They heard him loud and clear. Deport muslims. Mexicans are rapists. Black Lazy. bravenak Nov 2016 #103

no, because "gun grabbers" and "baby killers" are RW false memes Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #36

Then Stein voters are anti-environment and agree with Trump's plan to destroy environmental rules NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #95

no, Clinton ( or anyone else) was not "entitled" to anyone's vote, again false logic Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #97

hypocrisy NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #102

sorry, you are just logically wrong Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #107

oh, and ad hominem too! Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #108

You must not have read it then if this is the most bigoted thing you've read bravenak Nov 2016 #40

Trump said that and he is a racist piece of crap NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #96

Oh please spare me to trump defending DRAMA bravenak Nov 2016 #100

So pointing out that it is bigoted to call half of Americans you don't even know racists NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #105

Keep defending voting for a racist tyrant who wants muslims deported bravenak Nov 2016 #112

Keep denying that calling half of America racists is bigoted NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #130

And yet you implicitly deny the vast amount of racists in America LanternWaste Nov 2016 #132

Not if they are racist bravenak Nov 2016 #133

Yes, because, unlike other countries, astral Nov 2016 #120

So you just ignore that deporting a whole race of people thing then? bravenak Nov 2016 #128

You know why all rural voters voted the way they did? mcar Nov 2016 #60

I wish I was that dedicated bravenak Nov 2016 #67

I'm not the one that said ALL of the people who voted for Trump were racsists/sexists NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #99

but it wasn't a "deal-breaker" for ANY of them. annabanana Nov 2016 #110

If I voted for Hillary does that mean I supported the invasion of Iraq? Shrek Nov 2016 #37

Did she call for invading Iraq this year?? bravenak Nov 2016 #39

She called for a no fly zone where Russian planes are flying, which isn't any better jfern Nov 2016 #92

Still not invading iraq tho bravenak Nov 2016 #101

Not if she said intimated she do something different on those lines uponit7771 Nov 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Nov 2016 #59

she didn't campaign on that the way trump campaigned on banning people and walls JI7 Nov 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Nov 2016 #52

Duers did not vote for Trump bravenak Nov 2016 #55

Oh wait, your OP wasn't specific to DUers right? Arazi Nov 2016 #80

Um? That person mentioned duers as a group being attacked bravenak Nov 2016 #81

You extrapolated Arazi Nov 2016 #84

Boy did you ever hit the nail on the head bravenak Nov 2016 #85

K&R betsuni Nov 2016 #64

They might not all be racists. BlueStater Nov 2016 #69

Exactly bravenak Nov 2016 #71

There it is - did not worry enough about other races, other women, or any other potential target. jmg257 Nov 2016 #88

I call that passive racism. nt Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #91

K&R! DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #78

Yes cilla4progress Nov 2016 #79

Three options bpositive Nov 2016 #83

Can I choose all three? bravenak Nov 2016 #87

We can add sexist as well... sheshe2 Nov 2016 #126

Definately bravenak Nov 2016 #127

I'd offer "selfish" as a choice too. jmg257 Nov 2016 #90

Truth. nt LexVegas Nov 2016 #93

Amen. backscatter712 Nov 2016 #98

And I will not let them forget just how fucked up they are as humans bravenak Nov 2016 #104

There's no excuse for supporting Trump. None. Zip. Zilch. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #109

Seriously bravenak Nov 2016 #116

Where have I seen this logic before? Oh yeah, "All Mexican immigrants to the US are rapists." nt MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #111

Yes. That was Trump the racist and his racist voters. And the folks defending them might want to bravenak Nov 2016 #113

Ain't nobody gotta defend nobody; DU will do it. DU has always been against stereotyping/labels. MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #114

I'm sure DU will label them as we please and we have labeled them racists since they agree with bravenak Nov 2016 #115

Now it's "might just be?" What happened to "Voting for a racist asshole MAKES YOU A RACIST ASSHOLE" MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #118

Well it does bravenak Nov 2016 #124

That isn't parallel gollygee Nov 2016 #119

Ok...what part of the Hillary Clinton-approved Iraq War was your favorite? Since, you know... MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #121

No politician always makes perfect choices, but that's not the same as being racist gollygee Nov 2016 #122

Why are we assuming all the Trumpt voters knew what the hell they were even voting FOR? MadDAsHell Nov 2016 #123

Nobody could have missed Trump's bigotry, or his bragging about sexual assault, etc. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #129