If you fought against Hillary Clinton after the Democratic convention,

[JCanete]

113. Well take me. I did vote for Hillary. But actually count me as someone

who truly believes that the Democratic Party's abdication of responsibility to tackle social and economic justice in a meaningful way has contributed to what are very effective divide and conquer politics in this country. It has helped, not hindered race baiting messages. I was genuinely fearful that Trump would not be the last Trump, because of our shitty policies and the insistence of both parties to fight on social issues as an us versus them blood-match while allowing the economic policies to continue to ruin lives, in particular the lives of people of color in this nation. By refusing to give people a narrative that would have pitted white people against the real threat to their livelihoods and comfort, rather than the scapegoated communities, all in the interest of protecting their corporate masters, the Democratic establishment owns this turn of events, to a lesser extent than republicans, but they are culpable.

So for me, when I wasn't sure what to do just post primary(I made up my mind to vote for Hillary for a lot of reasons rather than to sit on the sidelines and let her win by less--boy was I wrong anyway), it wasn't because I thought that it was worth it to watch the brunt of suffering be heaped on people of color because I was insulated, it was because our policies have been and continue to hurt people of color. Who do you think took the main brunt from the market crash? Who were the most exploited with sub-prime loans? I foresaw more slow destruction and Trumps every cycle unless the American people woke up and started being involved in civics and politics. My fear may have been wrong, but I don't think that its accurate to say that I came by it out of indifference.

Like I mentioned, I did personally vote for Hillary. I was really impressed with what she was running on post-primaries and with what the DNC platform ended up being. I was not impressed with her during the primaries or previously(as a person yes, as a candidate with ideas no). Her message had been vague and tepid about actually going to the heart of any mechanisms for inequality. I can't speak for anybody else, but I was afraid we'd be taken for another 4 or 8 years, liberals would be blamed for things not getting better out of neo-liberal policies, and we would be up against another Trump once again, who would effectively stoke the kinds of economic fears conflated with welfare and immigration, that got this one into the White House.

You may not buy my earlier reasoning I guess, and its your right to assume it was selfish, but that's at least the kinds of shit I was thinking about.