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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: I just LOVE Bernie Sanders for saying this. It is so unsexist and so unmisogynistic! [View all]Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)310. No, we won't... a bitter pill to lose this election.
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I just LOVE Bernie Sanders for saying this. It is so unsexist and so unmisogynistic! [View all]
boston bean
Nov 2016
OP
Only when it comes to women according to you. You have a naive view of the world. n/t
duffyduff
Nov 2016
#213
Listen to Stiglitz blast TPP on the Ezra Klein podcast. He says that it isn't a trade bill
Akamai
Nov 2016
#330
Yup. Seems clear to me that Sanders was reaching out to us on issues,issues, issues!
Akamai
Nov 2016
#388
Civil rights are not inclusive? A big ugly part of the "status quo" is ignored to court angry
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#285
And no one did that. That she represented diversity offended the "former base" shows exactly why
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#290
I sure don't... Bernie is the truth, our voice, and shows us the way out of the quagmire we find ourselves.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#230
Why did Zypher Teachout lose by 10%. Why did Russ Feingold lose? If Bernie was so
still_one
Nov 2016
#339
I can't speak to other candidates' election losses as it pertains to Bernie, but I AGREE, those supporters who refused to vote for Hillary definitely have only THEMSELVES to blame...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#366
For WHITE working class liberals. All others pretty much are "identity politics" types
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#246
I seem to remember Hillary getting the votes of POC in way bigger numbers than Bernie.
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#324
From the time HRC was a college freshman, she has worked for the rights of women & children
Hekate
Nov 2016
#144
Votes are still being counted, and SHE is up by 1.5 million and heading for 2 million over Trump
Hekate
Nov 2016
#201
And so the right will beat up on any candidate...look at how they treated Obama
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#298
And that pisses off men. They get to decide which women deserve a share and which are left high
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#284
Well, now apparently is the time for 'pragmatism' for one's political survival...(nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#374
The vast majority of women who voted, voted for Hillary. 54% They just weren't all White. (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#113
There were so many lies, we need a supercomputer just to keep track of them all. nt
BootinUp
Nov 2016
#182
Bernie will be President for people of all races, religions, and genders... we will finally come together and be a stronger nation for it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#316
Well, he's certainly not indicating that by his actions now, and in the past. (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#321
Not sure what you're referring to... Bernie is the great uniter...indeed, the ONLY one who can heal our party.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#336
Certainly not a uniter of people who aren't white and lefty like the pop. of VT (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#343
You couldn't be more wrong about Bernie... the progressive issues he promoted benefits all races, all genders, all religions!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#346
Uniter? Do you worship Benie our support him? I there a church of Bernie that I have not
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#348
Bernie is not and will never be president...you have to win a primary first...and at
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#347
Bernie has the energy and stamina of someone half his age! Besides, like Hillary, Bernie is entitled to a second bite at the apple.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#318
Because he's not a Democrat, unless it serves his needs for establishment cred. (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#344
Bernie's an Independent in name, but a Democrat at heart... the best of all possible worlds!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#345
Discord?... hardly! Had we given Bernie a fair shot, we wouldn't be in this position... and yet his party loyalty continues to shine through!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2016
#350
When Bernie lost the primary, did he say, "I need to work to change my message."?
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#370
I am going to have to take two aspirin and lay down if I read much more of this shit.
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#259
You mean like you get a bunch of really reactionary hosts like on the radio
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#301
Yeah, because the last candidate we had told us to "vote for her because she's a woman"
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#10
They should have made that part bold as well. Really highlights his sexist remarks even more. nt.
NCTraveler
Nov 2016
#17
This is why I never supported Bernie and believe he would have lost even without
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#118
Right, the old, "it's not that she's a woman, it's that she wasn't the *right* woman"
Maven
Nov 2016
#29
Well I'm sure BOBers are glad they didn't make the mistake of electing the wrong woman this time.
Maven
Nov 2016
#64
" It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me.' No, thats not good enough.
NCTraveler
Nov 2016
#21
So was he being racist when he said just being Latino wasn't good enough? Was that his intent
think
Nov 2016
#25
"I have to know whether that Latina is going to stand up with the working class of this country"
think
Nov 2016
#37
Where he ended is with commentary about the election amd division in the party.
boston bean
Nov 2016
#41
I think that it's rather insulting to state that's only/main reason people would vote for her. (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#58
"Beyond identity politics" is like electing Obama and calling the US "post racial"...,
Hekate
Nov 2016
#24
And his solution was to basically try and avoid those issues. Works in VT, not nationally.
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#375
I have advocated on this board as to the reasons we should respect and appreciate him.
NCTraveler
Nov 2016
#13
lovely, we can all spend a contentious next 4 years saying "fuck you" to each other.
JCanete
Nov 2016
#420
I don't deify Sanders. I respect him and admire him. I don't think he personally is the
JCanete
Nov 2016
#422
He's been saying this for YEARS - that the concerns of white men were not being heard.....
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#15
Right, because there's no women in the white working class who need reproductive care
Hekate
Nov 2016
#20
Hillary took 54% of the working class vote 50,000. But it wasn't "White working class"
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#23
Your post made t sound like a solved issue. Who is pushing to weaken unions?
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#224
My post just said that the social justice and economic justice causes aren't in conflict.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#225
I wish Sanders saw it that way. It's been obvious he was afraid to alienate the WWC voter....
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#288
He's in the news Ken. Stop trying to suppress discussion of current events....
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#292
Sanders is talking about leaving people behind.... and so he'll get a reaction here.
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#294
I can, and that poster has no idea how issues women and POC have to do with economics that were NOT
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#306
Listen these white working class males are republicans and have been because of social
boston bean
Nov 2016
#55
Exactly. And Trump did that. He said Hillary didn't have a "Presidential look."
pnwmom
Nov 2016
#121
The concerns of white men are NOT what lost this election either, unemployement is at 4.9%
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#110
Poor widdle white dude babies. Women and POC just have to put them front and center.
duffyduff
Nov 2016
#267
No one has given me a good explanation why Russ Feingold and Zypher Teachout lost
still_one
Nov 2016
#38
And Bernie paved the way with his "I serve the people, and she only serves corporate masters"
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#152
Thanks Ehrnst- and I'll remind everyone how the worst of it was started by those trolls at JPR - but
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#187
I said he "in part" caused Hillary to not get the electoral college. (She won the vote.) nt
ehrnst
Nov 2016
#237
He started flipping off the norms by hiding his taxes, not conceding graciously but trying to hold
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#387
Well, enjoy president Trump all of you who simply felt she was unaceptable.
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#303
I voted for Hillary. And campaigned for her. And lost a couple of friends over her
hueymahl
Nov 2016
#334
I see you keep spamming this every time someone mentions that Bernie is cashing in
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#247
Same to you. You apparently want people to understand that if Bernie has a book
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#280
Nope Jane admitted that the book advance went towards their 600K house after it was discovered that
seaglass
Nov 2016
#307
I don't care, Steve. June 2014! Please post something recent and positive about any democrat
emulatorloo
Nov 2016
#358
This election was about the triumph of emotion -- fear, hate, hope, and vengeance --
pnwmom
Nov 2016
#69
It wasn't Trump, it was nonstop media fawning over him. Trump has no charisma.
duffyduff
Nov 2016
#189
Can't miss an opportunity to take a swipe at Hillary now that she's down, eh Bernie?
Maven
Nov 2016
#63
So, Trump won because he's going to stand up against Wall Street, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance?
Yavin4
Nov 2016
#70
1, yeap... don't really understand his logic here ... a billionaire asshole who bribes people isn't
uponit7771
Nov 2016
#114
No. It's the idea that her gender would automatically make her transformative in office.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#81
her female identity in the presidency would have INDEED been transformative
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2016
#86
you packed a lot of ideas into your post, I was only responding to you saying
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2016
#97
She was looking like she would...and virtually every Bernie supporter was a Warren supporter first.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#96
My point is, if the Bernie supporters were potential Warren supporters first...
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#140
Certainly a Warren candidacy was a certain group's fantasy, and they insisted she was a liar...
Hekate
Nov 2016
#204
Many Bernie supporters attacked Warren in some ugly fucked up ways when she didn't endorse Sanders
JI7
Nov 2016
#210
Yes, shockingly I think Hillary is just a woman. As I think Bernie is just a man
LiberalLovinLug
Nov 2016
#103
A better candidate that couldn't beat hillary. Also got millions less votes than her.
boston bean
Nov 2016
#227
She did stand up for the working class. Who are the people feeling she didn't and why?
boston bean
Nov 2016
#228
Right...because Hillary's economic ideas were so anti-working class and all.
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#264
Bullshit...you elected a president who's policy is the opposite of progressive...but
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#130
You are preaching to deaf ears, my friend, but you are precisely and quite simply right.
JudyM
Nov 2016
#207
Eichenwald is an investigative reporter. Your blogger is an opinion writer.
emulatorloo
Nov 2016
#407
Bernie is not going anywhere. Bernie and his philosophical successors are the future of the party,
jack_krass
Nov 2016
#326
Some of them think everyone to the left of John Podesta should be kicked out of the party.
Ken Burch
Nov 2016
#90
FYI maybe you should relay that to Bernie Fucking Sanders. As I recall, he LOST.
Maru Kitteh
Nov 2016
#206
Again, how is giving an opinion, after doing everything he can to help us win,
Tiggeroshii
Nov 2016
#217
I am with you. My college age daughter (who voted for Hillary as she is not stupid)
Demsrule86
Nov 2016
#311
Fuck him. He used the Dems, Hillary and the convention itself and bashed them all
bettyellen
Nov 2016
#146
Quite well, considering Hillary is on track to win by 2 million votes. She won't get the WH...
Hekate
Nov 2016
#205
But he would have been elected, don't you know, because he appealed to the same white dudes
duffyduff
Nov 2016
#212
You are promoting a false meme - that the only people who supported her was because she's a woman.
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#281
examples please...your feeling that he's sexist because he ran against your candidate who
JCanete
Nov 2016
#341
If my claim that Hillary never said that is wrong, feel free to point out where and when she did
DFW
Nov 2016
#418
I don't think it gets any more identity based than calling oneself a Berniecrat.
lapucelle
Nov 2016
#340
Stick with what works! Trump wants you to dictate the terms of our next campaign too.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2016
#413