2016 Postmortem

InAbLuEsTaTe

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233. Lesson learned... at least, let's hope!

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I just LOVE Bernie Sanders for saying this. It is so unsexist and so unmisogynistic! [View all] boston bean Nov 2016 OP

Jesus Christ ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #1

On a trailer hitch Hekate Nov 2016 #14

You're welcome. rocktivity Nov 2016 #93

A classic! Wasn't that from the Terri Schiavo circus? VOX Nov 2016 #180

You have an issue with what he said? Lithos Nov 2016 #176

What he calls "identity politics" ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #194

Identity politics is a mistake Lithos Nov 2016 #195

Only when it comes to women according to you. You have a naive view of the world. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #213

And when have I said this? Lithos Nov 2016 #214

It is clearly implied. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #265

not really Lithos Nov 2016 #273

Bernie Sanders campaign relayerbob Nov 2016 #276

That was my strong impression. ucrdem Nov 2016 #282

Listen to Stiglitz blast TPP on the Ezra Klein podcast. He says that it isn't a trade bill Akamai Nov 2016 #330

That's Stiglitz's view though.. JHan Nov 2016 #379

Utter garbage. The idea that TPP is a friend to US workers is beyond parody. Kentonio Nov 2016 #389

Which provisions in the TPP worry you? JHan Nov 2016 #401

How about the fact that will not be enforced. Exilednight Nov 2016 #405

the TPP is not perfect... JHan Nov 2016 #408

Agreed Gothmog Nov 2016 #378

Yup. Seems clear to me that Sanders was reaching out to us on issues,issues, issues! Akamai Nov 2016 #388

Civil rights are not inclusive? A big ugly part of the "status quo" is ignored to court angry bettyellen Nov 2016 #285

Sorry, but that's not what I'm talking about Lithos Nov 2016 #289

And no one did that. That she represented diversity offended the "former base" shows exactly why bettyellen Nov 2016 #290

She ignored them Lithos Nov 2016 #295

agreed. Good editorial in NYT this Sunday on this issue BREMPRO Nov 2016 #410

Yes Lithos Nov 2016 #415

It's the RW's translation for it, just as PC is robbedvoter Nov 2016 #376

I sure don't... Bernie is the truth, our voice, and shows us the way out of the quagmire we find ourselves. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #230

Why did Zypher Teachout lose by 10%. Why did Russ Feingold lose? If Bernie was so still_one Nov 2016 #339

All good questions mcar Nov 2016 #342

I can't speak to other candidates' election losses as it pertains to Bernie, but I AGREE, those supporters who refused to vote for Hillary definitely have only THEMSELVES to blame... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #366

I just can't agree. He damaged the Democratic Party Hortensis Nov 2016 #364

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #2

Standing up HassleCat Nov 2016 #3

Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #231

Especially where Bernie is concerned.... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #323

Does your sig line mean you wrote in Sanders and Warren in 2016? boston bean Nov 2016 #338

For WHITE working class liberals. All others pretty much are "identity politics" types ehrnst Nov 2016 #246

I missed Hilary's speech supporting reparations Uponthegears Nov 2016 #255

I seem to remember Hillary getting the votes of POC in way bigger numbers than Bernie. ehrnst Nov 2016 #324

An answer? Uponthegears Nov 2016 #328

Bullshit ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #361

Oh he never even bothered didn't he? Kentonio Nov 2016 #390

But she had dinner one time with a black family in their house GummyBearz Nov 2016 #402

lol Trying to stay out of trouble? DURHAM D Nov 2016 #4

Seems highly insensitive of him to say it that way. ThirdEye Nov 2016 #5

We had a woman who could/would do all of that. DURHAM D Nov 2016 #9

She certainly could ThirdEye Nov 2016 #36

You make absolutely no sense. nt DURHAM D Nov 2016 #40

Made sense to me. progressoid Nov 2016 #76

Then maybe you can also explain why lapucelle Nov 2016 #160

Google can help... progressoid Nov 2016 #208

Shorter text: lapucelle Nov 2016 #234

Here we go again... ThirdEye Nov 2016 #383

My comment was in reference to Tulsi Gabbard's audition last week lapucelle Nov 2016 #385

/facepalm ThirdEye Nov 2016 #411

You've got a sense of humor, my friend. lapucelle Nov 2016 #423

Makes sense to me too. NT hueymahl Nov 2016 #141

I think I do make sense ThirdEye Nov 2016 #382

Funny that you think that you had the ability Hillary if she had won CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #71

Clearly, if you liked Bernie, you had to hate Hillary in equal measure. ehrnst Nov 2016 #122

From the time HRC was a college freshman, she has worked for the rights of women & children Hekate Nov 2016 #144

Except that she wasn't "common" and couldn't overcome her negative ratings. MelissaB Nov 2016 #167

Votes are still being counted, and SHE is up by 1.5 million and heading for 2 million over Trump Hekate Nov 2016 #201

You don't live in the South, do you. MelissaB Nov 2016 #243

And so the right will beat up on any candidate...look at how they treated Obama Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #298

You are right about not catering to them, but MelissaB Nov 2016 #312

Tell you how she lost? Sure, no problem. Kentonio Nov 2016 #391

And that pisses off men. They get to decide which women deserve a share and which are left high bettyellen Nov 2016 #284

Sanders already caved on the 15 minimum wage lapucelle Nov 2016 #157

The 15 minimum died on November 8th. Zen Democrat Nov 2016 #226

Apparently along with his principles nt metroins Nov 2016 #258

Nope NWCorona Nov 2016 #296

Indeed... I am very disappointed. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #300

Well, now apparently is the time for 'pragmatism' for one's political survival...(nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #374

Survival? ThirdEye Nov 2016 #384

So wait Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #304

Made sense to me as well. MelissaB Nov 2016 #165

His point was "spot on" BainsBane Nov 2016 #190

Opportunism. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #238

Yes, I saw Kellyanne was very complimentary BainsBane Nov 2016 #242

Yes she was. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #256

Thanks ThirdEye Nov 2016 #381

That seems to be a fairly common response to BainsBane Nov 2016 #386

More white women voted for Donald Trump than for Hillary Clinton Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #48

The vast majority of women who voted, voted for Hillary. 54% They just weren't all White. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #113

There were so many lies, we need a supercomputer just to keep track of them all. nt BootinUp Nov 2016 #182

"identity politics" is "political correctness" for the left. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #12

Very true. boston bean Nov 2016 #19

100 Quayblue Nov 2016 #191

No we don't agree...Hillary would have done all those things... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #117

Yes! We need principled progressive stalwarts in our party! lapucelle Nov 2016 #153

Get what you can... sfwriter Nov 2016 #183

This is why Bernie will ALWAYS be "My President"! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #232

Because a 79 year old White Senator of the whitest state in the union ehrnst Nov 2016 #244

Bernie will be President for people of all races, religions, and genders... we will finally come together and be a stronger nation for it. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #316

Well, he's certainly not indicating that by his actions now, and in the past. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #321

Not sure what you're referring to... Bernie is the great uniter...indeed, the ONLY one who can heal our party. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #336

Certainly not a uniter of people who aren't white and lefty like the pop. of VT (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #343

You couldn't be more wrong about Bernie... the progressive issues he promoted benefits all races, all genders, all religions!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #346

No. He didn't even try to get the southern black vote ehrnst Nov 2016 #371

Uniter? Do you worship Benie our support him? I there a church of Bernie that I have not Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #348

Yes. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #352

Apparently, there is a new incarnation of the Buddha.... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #372

Bernie is not and will never be president...you have to win a primary first...and at Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #347

No thank you. I like Elizabeth Warren Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #257

Bernie has the energy and stamina of someone half his age! Besides, like Hillary, Bernie is entitled to a second bite at the apple. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #318

Not as a Democrat. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #322

Why not? InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #335

Because he's not a Democrat, unless it serves his needs for establishment cred. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #344

Bernie's an Independent in name, but a Democrat at heart... the best of all possible worlds! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #345

His name and heart should get married and produce Democratic victories Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #349

Discord?... hardly! Had we given Bernie a fair shot, we wouldn't be in this position... and yet his party loyalty continues to shine through! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #350

When Bernie lost the primary, did he say, "I need to work to change my message."? ehrnst Nov 2016 #370

Trump is your president. lapucelle Nov 2016 #272

That asshole tRump will NEVER be my president! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #315

I don't know what you're saying. lapucelle Nov 2016 #270

So much for him "starting with a full loaf" of 15 minimum wage... ehrnst Nov 2016 #245

I am going to have to take two aspirin and lay down if I read much more of this shit. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #259

What you do when you bring Identity politics into play Lithos Nov 2016 #178

Lesson learned... at least, let's hope! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #233

Really? I guess you missed the last 30 years Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #262

You mean like you get a bunch of really reactionary hosts like on the radio Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #301

Hell with him mcar Nov 2016 #6

I like how you didn't bold the other part Kurska Nov 2016 #7

Yeah, because the last candidate we had told us to "vote for her because she's a woman" ehrnst Nov 2016 #10

They should have made that part bold as well. Really highlights his sexist remarks even more. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #17

This is why I never supported Bernie and believe he would have lost even without Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #118

And we will never know now. NWCorona Nov 2016 #297

No, we won't... a bitter pill to lose this election. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #310

Margaret Thatcher was a woman. nashville_brook Nov 2016 #154

Right, the old, "it's not that she's a woman, it's that she wasn't the *right* woman" Maven Nov 2016 #29

Yeah, the 'wrong woman" got more votes than any white man in history. ehrnst Nov 2016 #33

You had a point.. ThirdEye Nov 2016 #43

There is a lot more than policy that would have killed him in the GE. ehrnst Nov 2016 #51

Sanders had no idea okasha Nov 2016 #171

Hear, hear!!! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #373

Well I'm sure BOBers are glad they didn't make the mistake of electing the wrong woman this time. Maven Nov 2016 #64

Bernie doesn't get it...we have Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #125

Thank you sooo much for the mansplaining NastyRiffraff Nov 2016 #163

... mcar Nov 2016 #177

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #111

Because guess what? Starting with the first part pretty much made all of it suck. kcr Nov 2016 #119

"All lives matter!!" (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #8

Strawman ThirdEye Nov 2016 #45

It's just like saying that. Like saying "enough with political correctness" ehrnst Nov 2016 #50

Asked by a questioner how she could become the second Latina senator in U.S think Nov 2016 #11

" It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me.' No, thats not good enough. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #21

So was he being racist when he said just being Latino wasn't good enough? Was that his intent think Nov 2016 #25

Show me the quote and context and I'll let you know. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #30

It's in the quote I posted. Did you miss it? think Nov 2016 #31

Yes. I missed it. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #34

"I have to know whether that Latina is going to stand up with the working class of this country" think Nov 2016 #37

Where he ended is with commentary about the election amd division in the party. boston bean Nov 2016 #41

"It's where the conversation started." NCTraveler Nov 2016 #46

Many a white male think their economic standing take primacy boston bean Nov 2016 #52

He's all for chasing a group we LOST DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #95

I gave up giving a shit about those white dudes duffyduff Nov 2016 #188

Exactly. n/t DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #236

With all due respect angrychair Nov 2016 #133

So many built in and flawed assumptions. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #134

I apologize for the shortcomings angrychair Nov 2016 #136

I really do like much of what you wrote. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #137

Great post hueymahl Nov 2016 #142

I think that it's rather insulting to state that's only/main reason people would vote for her. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #58

Yep - because it implies that was the only positive thing that Hillary offered ehrnst Nov 2016 #28

So....you're saying that that IS good enough? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #66

I read your stuff a JPR...you want a 'new' party. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #240

I just don't think it's important to him that the glass ceiling gets shattered. LisaM Nov 2016 #68

He's a dude, that's why. duffyduff Nov 2016 #266

"Beyond identity politics" is like electing Obama and calling the US "post racial"..., Hekate Nov 2016 #24

White men are being neglected!!! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #35

For me, going beyond means expanding ThirdEye Nov 2016 #47

Not according to Bernie in 2013 ehrnst Nov 2016 #53

"class' is as much identity politics as is race or gender. riversedge Nov 2016 #65

And his solution was to basically try and avoid those issues. Works in VT, not nationally. bettyellen Nov 2016 #375

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #112

I have advocated on this board as to the reasons we should respect and appreciate him. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #13

100000 Hekate Nov 2016 #16

Hear, hear!!! (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #22

Agreed. Maven Nov 2016 #26

. DURHAM D Nov 2016 #27

1!!! tallahasseedem Nov 2016 #42

Applause otohara Nov 2016 #78

LOL... yeah Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #83

I agree. I am so angry with him. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #127

so you'd whole-heartedly support Sarah Palin? nashville_brook Nov 2016 #156

1 nt NCTraveler Nov 2016 #158

Yep. Lucinda Nov 2016 #161

Exactly! You can't spell Sanders without NADER. R B Garr Nov 2016 #248

Here comes a hide liquid diamond Nov 2016 #249

I think it depends on the jury which is random. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #252

You should appeal. Bernie is not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #253

I did liquid diamond Nov 2016 #274

It takes a while. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #302

Lol NWCorona Nov 2016 #299

lovely, we can all spend a contentious next 4 years saying "fuck you" to each other. JCanete Nov 2016 #420

I have no intentions of saying "fuck you" to you over the next four years. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #421

I don't deify Sanders. I respect him and admire him. I don't think he personally is the JCanete Nov 2016 #422

He's been saying this for YEARS - that the concerns of white men were not being heard..... ehrnst Nov 2016 #15

Ayup. boston bean Nov 2016 #18

Right, because there's no women in the white working class who need reproductive care Hekate Nov 2016 #20

Hillary took 54% of the working class vote 50,000. But it wasn't "White working class" ehrnst Nov 2016 #23

Bernie has always been just as pro-choice as Hillary. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #150

How about unions refusing to admit black members? okasha Nov 2016 #175

That was wrong when unions did that-and that was decades ago. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #181

Racial discrimination in the workplace has been over for many years? bettyellen Nov 2016 #218

I didn't say there was no workplace discrimination. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #219

Your post made t sound like a solved issue. Who is pushing to weaken unions? bettyellen Nov 2016 #224

My post just said that the social justice and economic justice causes aren't in conflict. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #225

I wish Sanders saw it that way. It's been obvious he was afraid to alienate the WWC voter.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #288

In any case...Bernie isn't going to run for the presidency again... Ken Burch Nov 2016 #291

He's in the news Ken. Stop trying to suppress discussion of current events.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #292

It's not about wanting anyone to shut up. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #293

Sanders is talking about leaving people behind.... and so he'll get a reaction here. bettyellen Nov 2016 #294

You really can't... tonedevil Nov 2016 #305

I can, and that poster has no idea how issues women and POC have to do with economics that were NOT bettyellen Nov 2016 #306

They're hung up, not us ThirdEye Nov 2016 #49

I believe that he was talking about the Democratic party 'abandoning' them ehrnst Nov 2016 #54

Listen these white working class males are republicans and have been because of social boston bean Nov 2016 #55

Yeah, well he's been a sexist for years then. pnwmom Nov 2016 #67

It's men who benefit from their gender, not women. athena Nov 2016 #105

Exactly. And Trump did that. He said Hillary didn't have a "Presidential look." pnwmom Nov 2016 #121

The concerns of white men are NOT what lost this election either, unemployement is at 4.9% uponit7771 Nov 2016 #110

You are mischaracterizing that. sfwriter Nov 2016 #184

Poor widdle white dude babies. Women and POC just have to put them front and center. duffyduff Nov 2016 #267

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2016 #32

No one has given me a good explanation why Russ Feingold and Zypher Teachout lost still_one Nov 2016 #38

She earned the popular vote, despite a 25 year attack from the right ehrnst Nov 2016 #39

we are on the same page still_one Nov 2016 #44

Yes, indeed! ehrnst Nov 2016 #56

That is borderline offensive and sexist hueymahl Nov 2016 #143

Bernie certainly is. Women can hear the dog whistles just fine. Hekate Nov 2016 #147

You know, if I said Hillary was bigoted in some way, I would get a hide hueymahl Nov 2016 #149

And Bernie paved the way with his "I serve the people, and she only serves corporate masters" ehrnst Nov 2016 #152

a million! Fantastic post!! boston bean Nov 2016 #170

Thanks Ehrnst- and I'll remind everyone how the worst of it was started by those trolls at JPR - but bettyellen Nov 2016 #187

Feel better? hueymahl Nov 2016 #202

I said he "in part" caused Hillary to not get the electoral college. (She won the vote.) nt ehrnst Nov 2016 #237

Bernie cost us the election due to the divisive primary. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #254

He started flipping off the norms by hiding his taxes, not conceding graciously but trying to hold bettyellen Nov 2016 #387

His inability to learn or admit when he is wrong soured me on him. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #406

Excellent Hekate Nov 2016 #203

Standing ovation. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #241

Fantastic post ehrnst! n/t seaglass Nov 2016 #250

In part...yes, indeed!.. Guilded Lilly Nov 2016 #404

I blame the people who voted third party or lapucelle Nov 2016 #168

Bernie is not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #263

It has everything to do with it. Get a clue for once. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #269

Well, enjoy president Trump all of you who simply felt she was unaceptable. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #303

I voted for Hillary. And campaigned for her. And lost a couple of friends over her hueymahl Nov 2016 #334

me too...I meant in general. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #337

People seem to forget that, don't they? mcar Nov 2016 #91

yes they do still_one Nov 2016 #186

Yep. That gets crickets every time. kcr Nov 2016 #128

This statement is mathmatically dubious and divisive. sfwriter Nov 2016 #185

Tone deaf. Absolutely. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #57

Narcissism, thy name is Bernie Sanders. grossproffit Nov 2016 #62

He's got a book to sell, you know...nt SidDithers Nov 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #77

... SidDithers Nov 2016 #123

I see you keep spamming this every time someone mentions that Bernie is cashing in R B Garr Nov 2016 #247

OOPS!!! Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #271

LOL! The depths of pettiness over everything Clinton is truly a sight R B Garr Nov 2016 #278

Reading comprehension Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #279

Same to you. You apparently want people to understand that if Bernie has a book R B Garr Nov 2016 #280

Go back to Sid's comment that started this Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #283

Nope Jane admitted that the book advance went towards their 600K house after it was discovered that seaglass Nov 2016 #307

Just stop. No more crap articles from June fucking 2014 to smear HRC emulatorloo Nov 2016 #356

This was a reply to "He's got a book to sell, you know...nt" Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #357

I don't care, Steve. June 2014! Please post something recent and positive about any democrat emulatorloo Nov 2016 #358

Deleted it Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #365

Hope you all are having a wonderful day! emulatorloo Nov 2016 #367

Mine is better than Marta's Omaha Steve Nov 2016 #368

Oh sorry to hear that! Best wishes to her, I hope she feels better soon. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #369

Well - he's never won two Presidential elections JustAnotherGen Nov 2016 #60

I am thrilled that Obama will be leading the charge, so thankful. n/t seaglass Nov 2016 #251

we most move past identity politics jg10003 Nov 2016 #61

This election was about the triumph of emotion -- fear, hate, hope, and vengeance -- pnwmom Nov 2016 #69

It wasn't Trump, it was nonstop media fawning over him. Trump has no charisma. duffyduff Nov 2016 #189

Can't miss an opportunity to take a swipe at Hillary now that she's down, eh Bernie? Maven Nov 2016 #63

Exactly. athena Nov 2016 #73

So, Trump won because he's going to stand up against Wall Street, Big Pharma, and Big Insurance? Yavin4 Nov 2016 #70

I like the way you are thinking ther Yavin! boston bean Nov 2016 #75

1, yeap... don't really understand his logic here ... a billionaire asshole who bribes people isn't uponit7771 Nov 2016 #114

Wow the truth hurts based on responses LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #72

So to you, Hillary is just a woman. athena Nov 2016 #74

No. It's the idea that her gender would automatically make her transformative in office. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #81

her female identity in the presidency would have INDEED been transformative Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #86

Oh, yeah...wait, what? Ken Burch Nov 2016 #92

you packed a lot of ideas into your post, I was only responding to you saying Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #97

Thanks for that. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #99

yes, definitely-- new tactics are badly needed Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #124

Elizabeth warrenhas neber run for president. boston bean Nov 2016 #94

She was looking like she would...and virtually every Bernie supporter was a Warren supporter first. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #96

No she always said she was not running for president. boston bean Nov 2016 #98

That wasn't always certain. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #100

What question? A hypothetical on what you think my answer might be?? boston bean Nov 2016 #109

My point is, if the Bernie supporters were potential Warren supporters first... Ken Burch Nov 2016 #140

Go give some advice to Bernie. boston bean Nov 2016 #166

Certainly a Warren candidacy was a certain group's fantasy, and they insisted she was a liar... Hekate Nov 2016 #204

Many Bernie supporters attacked Warren in some ugly fucked up ways when she didn't endorse Sanders JI7 Nov 2016 #210

thanks for putting it into those words LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #108

No one supporting her ever thought that- but BOBs pushed it hard .... bettyellen Nov 2016 #145

That's exactly what LiberalLovinLug didn't say. progressoid Nov 2016 #84

Yes, shockingly I think Hillary is just a woman. As I think Bernie is just a man LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #103

A better candidate that couldn't beat hillary. Also got millions less votes than her. boston bean Nov 2016 #227

In the end lapucelle Nov 2016 #235

The same "truth" you spew over at Pinebagger, Jim Jones site? grossproffit Nov 2016 #80

Do you have a problem with something I posted there? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #89

Yes. nt JTFrog Nov 2016 #215

Your not the only Bernie person stuck in the middle marlakay Nov 2016 #360

Thank you. I feel like this site has lost its mind. Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #101

She did stand up for the working class. Who are the people feeling she didn't and why? boston bean Nov 2016 #228

Right...because Hillary's economic ideas were so anti-working class and all. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #264

What she said about coal hurt her. Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #268

The truth is DPutin is going to stand up to Wall Street?!?! Really?! uponit7771 Nov 2016 #115

Bullshit...you elected a president who's policy is the opposite of progressive...but Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #130

You are preaching to deaf ears, my friend, but you are precisely and quite simply right. JudyM Nov 2016 #207

Yep jack_krass Nov 2016 #320

Oh FFS! Bernie, please go away. leftofcool Nov 2016 #79

I hope and pray he is just starting LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #107

Why don't you think he has done enough? The GOP have all three branches of Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #131

Ridiculous LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #197

I've read your multiple posts at JPR Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #260

Ridiculous. Never would have won. Justice Nov 2016 #277

If the Democratic Party believes this obvious untruth cpwm17 Nov 2016 #317

Sorry, Bernie would have been destroyed. See Eichenwald's post mortem. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #355

There's a good rebuttal of his nonsense article here.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #392

Eichenwald is an investigative reporter. Your blogger is an opinion writer. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #407

The revolution is over. He has already caved to King Donald. leftofcool Nov 2016 #135

Bernie doesn't have a revolution. okasha Nov 2016 #179

That's ok, put your feet up, relax LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #199

Non sequitur. okasha Nov 2016 #220

Well, you're doing a super job so far.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #393

Bernie is not going anywhere. Bernie and his philosophical successors are the future of the party, jack_krass Nov 2016 #326

where's the SARCASM emoticon? Surely you are not serious. Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #82

She's not. athena Nov 2016 #102

Yay. Let's bash Bernie! progressoid Nov 2016 #85

Some of them think everyone to the left of John Podesta should be kicked out of the party. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #90

Wow. Don't know those Dems. Hyperbole much? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #106

(plus)100000 nashville_brook Nov 2016 #155

Yep! MelissaB Nov 2016 #169

You know Sanders isn't in the party, right? okasha Nov 2016 #221

Whether he is or not isn't the point. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #222

Yeah, I totally got that from Bernie supporters - "Let's all work together" ehrnst Nov 2016 #104

Who cares about Bernie Sanders? Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #132

Who cares? 13 million primary voters for starters. progressoid Nov 2016 #138

The primary is over and we lost the election... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #139

It would seem one person's bashing is another's constructive criticism. progressoid Nov 2016 #198

I have heard the video where Bernie talks about Identity politics. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #239

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #192

I don't know what you mean. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #196

Dude. The primaries ended in July. Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #87

FYI maybe you should relay that to Bernie Fucking Sanders. As I recall, he LOST. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #206

So did Clinton Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #211

And yet only one of them is now acting like a sore loser. Maru Kitteh Nov 2016 #216

Again, how is giving an opinion, after doing everything he can to help us win, Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #217

Ha I can do without this sort of 'help'. It would be nice if we could Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #261

The arrogance is frankly astounding. Kentonio Nov 2016 #395

He still has a role in politics, unlike Clinton Nevernose Nov 2016 #275

Joyless? No, THAT'S a hoot. Kentonio Nov 2016 #394

I have always liked Bernie, but I'm really sad that he said this. cry baby Nov 2016 #88

I agree, and he does seem bitter Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #120

I am going to lose my mind...he is like the energizer bunny... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #116

infinity. grossproffit Nov 2016 #287

I am with you. My college age daughter (who voted for Hillary as she is not stupid) Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #311

So there should have been no one.. MicaelS Nov 2016 #319

Its not enough to say I have ideas Fresh_Start Nov 2016 #126

Great piece in Alternet about the dangers of this kind of thinking ehrnst Nov 2016 #129

Fuck him. He used the Dems, Hillary and the convention itself and bashed them all bettyellen Nov 2016 #146

I agree with Bernie. How did that "Identity Politics" work out for us? jalan48 Nov 2016 #148

Quite well, considering Hillary is on track to win by 2 million votes. She won't get the WH... Hekate Nov 2016 #205

Yes, the same rules have only been in place for about 240 years.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #396

I hope people now understand BainsBane Nov 2016 #151

But the Bernie Bros have no problem with it...nt SidDithers Nov 2016 #162

Unfortunately for them BainsBane Nov 2016 #164

It's making the social media rounds now. ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #172

We were right about him all along. No doubt. Not that I had any.. boston bean Nov 2016 #173

Yup ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #174

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You're not really happy here, are you? okasha Nov 2016 #223

Hilaary supporters voted for hillary. Ot trump or someone else. boston bean Nov 2016 #229

Such a sore fucking loser La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #159

Fuck that. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #193

i hate to feel this way JI7 Nov 2016 #209

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He is one of the reasons Hillary is not president today. athena Nov 2016 #309

I can't believe you actually believe that. MelissaB Nov 2016 #313

I can't believe you don't. athena Nov 2016 #314

I donated to both as well, for exactly the same reason DFW Nov 2016 #332

How is it an 'ugly and offensive comment' exactly? Kentonio Nov 2016 #397

But he would have been elected, don't you know, because he appealed to the same white dudes duffyduff Nov 2016 #212

What's wrong with anything he said there? Kentonio Nov 2016 #398

You are promoting a false meme - that the only people who supported her was because she's a woman. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #281

No-one is saying that's the only reason people supported her. Kentonio Nov 2016 #399

If you can't see it then there is no use trying to explain it to you. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #412

Well that's up to you of course. Kentonio Nov 2016 #414

So you found his statement divisive and you thought it best to JCanete Nov 2016 #308

I disagree with his sexism. Have since the primary. Next question.... LexVegas Nov 2016 #333

examples please...your feeling that he's sexist because he ran against your candidate who JCanete Nov 2016 #341

Good. Glad you like it (nt) jack_krass Nov 2016 #325

Trump and the neo-Nazis disagree with him. They prefer identity politics... Orsino Nov 2016 #327

I saw Sanders true colors in the primary. nt LexVegas Nov 2016 #329

Yes, Hillary should NEVER have said, "I'm a woman, vote for me." DFW Nov 2016 #331

You mean like her surrogate Madeleine Albright's now infamous quote.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #400

If you want to rag on Madeline Albright, go ahead DFW Nov 2016 #416

So just to clarify.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #417

If my claim that Hillary never said that is wrong, feel free to point out where and when she did DFW Nov 2016 #418

Ah so having a surrogate do it is completely different.. Kentonio Nov 2016 #419

I don't think it gets any more identity based than calling oneself a Berniecrat. lapucelle Nov 2016 #340

Bernie is using a gaslighting technique. LisaM Nov 2016 #351

I was also offended by this statement by Sanders Gothmog Nov 2016 #353

"Magic Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest revolutionary of all?" betsuni Nov 2016 #354

Hillary did not say 'I'm a women, vote for me.' So fuck that noise. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #359

Exactly. Not a single time. This is another Amimnoch Nov 2016 #362

No more identitiy politics rumdude Nov 2016 #363

PC - another name for civil rights right wing tanks cooked robbedvoter Nov 2016 #377

I feel sometimes Bernie is feigning ignorance.. JHan Nov 2016 #380

Bernie is correct about that Renew Deal Nov 2016 #403

The End of Identity liberalism NYT BREMPRO Nov 2016 #409

Stick with what works! Trump wants you to dictate the terms of our next campaign too. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2016 #413