2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie: Calling the Hillary NY Cheating "Disgraceful" is Not Enough, It Was Illegal. Do Something. [View all]glowing
(12,233 posts)I truly believe NY is the state that makes it clear to Democrats, that it is Democratic establishment that is pulling Republican tactics. NY is in large part, run by Democrats. Wall St and the banks are HUGE influence in politics. If Bernie wins, they lose. It wouldn't surprise me that they already had the voting tabulations set for a margin of win percentage... They may have overplayed the hand with that because of all the purged and changed registrations?
The reality is the split should have been closer to 52/ 48 with the win going to Clinton. The delegates would essentially be split and the narrative coming out of NY would have been completely different than the one we heard.... Essentially, everyone wants Sanders to pull out, pull back, quit attacking Hillary's record. If he pulled out of the election now, he loses delegates. If he stays in, the likelihood of either candidate reaching the magic number with pledged delegates is unlikely. It then comes down to Super delegates and what is happening in the world in July. By then, she may be indicted over her e-mails. AND boy do I wish Sander's hadn't said, "who gives a damn about the e-mails" because as light and investigation is showing, its a bigger deal than initially anyone thought when the right was on the attack.. It looked like another smear attack like Benghazi.
AND why in the world has he not hammered home the point that she's under FBI investigation? I'm not sure many Americans are even aware of this fact? Fox noise knows, the right knows. Between this and the Goldman speeches most likely coming to the light in the General, I do believe, she could very much lose. I'm not so sure any voting manipulation, tabulations could save her if polling going into a GE shows her significantly down or that many Dems aren't voting or choosing "other"... And independents (43% of the country now), chooses not to vote or ends up sliding back down to vote for the Republican.. AND if it is Trump, he may surprise the heck out of the left when he starts grabbing hold of popular progressive ideas. AS in money out of politics (he's not bought and is an issue in ALL of America), and when he adopts the idea of Medicare for All. Many business leaders and multi-national corporations would be just fine with the US govt taking over the health care costs of its employees. Its a huge cost burden, takes up most people's "raise" money every year, and is a private company subsidizing another private company in a completely inefficient model. Trump is a business man. He has supported this idea in the past. And I'm sure he understands that 80% of the country finds medicare a really good thing, and expanding the program to grab young, healthy, working people's into the money pot is "good business". From there, they can still have some sort of 80/ 20 split with insurance companies. Or the health insurance companies switch direction to sell to the public "catestrophic" policies. So, if you become very sick, like accident or cancer, they pay out cost of living help so you can take time off and still pay your mortgage. Or the companies are paid by the govt directly to manage the Medicare for All... I'm sure with a Republican in charge, they would figure out some sort of scam to keep the private insurance companies floating somehow.. Or the CEO/ Boards will figure out some way to grab all that medicare money coming into the govt coffers.