2016 Postmortem

Agschmid

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20. This counties narrative is bunk.

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:46 AM

Apr 2016

First counties don't really matter, districts do. Second NY is a big state, there are lots of counties with very small comparative pollinations to NYC, if you want to win the state you need to win the cities (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, NYC) and Hillary won all but one of those.

The minute she carried Rochester it was over, I was SHOCKED she won Rochester, I lived there and thought Sanders had it in the bag.

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Bernie: Calling the Hillary NY Cheating "Disgraceful" is Not Enough, It Was Illegal. Do Something. [View all] silvershadow Apr 2016 OP

We should petition Bernie felix_numinous Apr 2016 #1

This is nonsense. Both poll aggregators, 538 and RCP, predicted a 15 point win. pnwmom Apr 2016 #2

They just can't accept it rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #4

Interesting how Sanders won the majority of New York counties despite Clinton victory. Petrushka Apr 2016 #5

It doesn't matter when votes are tallied according to DISTRICTS, not counties. randome Apr 2016 #9

Incorrect: votes are tallied by counties; delegates are allocated according to districts. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #29

Well, I had the GIST of it right! Okay, thanks for the correction. randome Apr 2016 #39

What? "You should have seen that in this forum already."? Petrushka Apr 2016 #56

Manhattan and the other boroughs have many more voters than all those upstate counties put together. pnwmom Apr 2016 #15

"Manhattan and its boroughs..." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #41

yeah, yeah, I should have said "the other boroughs." pnwmom Apr 2016 #42

No worries! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #44

To me, Manhattan always seemed to be at the center of everything, but I'm sure pnwmom Apr 2016 #45

This counties narrative is bunk. Agschmid Apr 2016 #20

Sorry, your polls mean nothing in the face of evidence of voter suppression and widespread incompete reformist2 Apr 2016 #6

"We" who? It should be pretty obvious to Sanders sufrommich Apr 2016 #8

"We reject them." pnwmom Apr 2016 #16

I am absolutely astounded by the incredible arrogance I'm COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #36

Who is we ??? Setsuna1972 Apr 2016 #58

What evidence do you have that Sanders supporters were targeted? Adrahil Apr 2016 #60

Yet in all counties other than in the NYC area beedle Apr 2016 #27

Between the voter purges, changing party affiliation, and the exit polls mismatching the vote totals glowing Apr 2016 #38

Links please. I've never seen any pre-election polls based on NY counties. pnwmom Apr 2016 #40

here you go beedle Apr 2016 #47

Okay, so they made this map. But where is the underlying data that they used pnwmom Apr 2016 #48

Read their FAQ beedle Apr 2016 #57

Wow, thanks, I have been looking for that kind of info dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #70

The most important thing for a Government to do Downwinder Apr 2016 #3

They even admit to widespread incompetence, but still want us to "move on". reformist2 Apr 2016 #7

No, we don't. We expect de Blasio to complete his investigation. randome Apr 2016 #10

But you don't want to do what it takes to let these voters have their voices heard. That would mean reformist2 Apr 2016 #12

Even if every voter who missed out is counted as a Sanders voter, he would still lose. randome Apr 2016 #17

I don't believe Bernie would've won New York without the voter suppression but the race would be Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #25

Notice how the author implies that Sanders blamed Clinton when he did not. randome Apr 2016 #11

The author implied Camp Hillary, not Hillary personally. The elite rarely get their hands dirty. reformist2 Apr 2016 #13

No, look at the headline: "Bernie: Calling the Hillary NY Cheating..." randome Apr 2016 #14

"...the Hillary NY Cheating..." Tarc Apr 2016 #18

Bernie....you lost. Move on JaneyVee Apr 2016 #19

Ridiculous OP title. Agschmid Apr 2016 #21

When you find out that some so-called "cheaters" were Bernie supporters what will you say? Jitter65 Apr 2016 #22

Agree pdsimdars Apr 2016 #23

Bernie has not actually said this. yardwork Apr 2016 #24

Funny that. beedle Apr 2016 #30

The Republican admitted doing it. yardwork Apr 2016 #62

Admitted doing regular 'cleaning' beedle Apr 2016 #63

Paranoia loses its value when it distracts from the real problem. yardwork Apr 2016 #67

Right, Republicans are fixing the results for Hillary? beedle Apr 2016 #69

Welp, here goes Sanders under the bus. We all knew it was coming. Squinch Apr 2016 #26

"Hillary New York cheating" ? I saw no evidence in the OP that points to Hillary. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #28

I like the backward Bernie symbol at the bottom of your post n/t Onlooker Apr 2016 #31

Primary results, according to Bernie supporters... SidDithers Apr 2016 #32

+1. This will be my response to all the whining from this point forward. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #35

Full credit to brookynite, who posted it last night... SidDithers Apr 2016 #37

LOL pnwmom Apr 2016 #43

Speaking of fraud beedle Apr 2016 #49

hahahaha this is perfect obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #55

Opinion Blog Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #33

Speaking of disgraceful, the title of the OP is packed with known lies. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #34

That Republican is implicated in a large real estate payoff dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #71

Stating "Hillary NY Cheating" is pretty disgusting and dishonest in itself. seabeyond Apr 2016 #46

Bernie hasn't challenged the outcome of any other race(*); why start now... brooklynite Apr 2016 #50

Right. It was Clinton, Democrats that called Arizona out and in NY immediately the seabeyond Apr 2016 #51

Gutter OP MadBadger Apr 2016 #52

Why yell at Bernie? He has said he can't do this alone. If you live in an area where there was haikugal Apr 2016 #53

That was also my problem with the OP - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #72

Hillary was the target in Brooklyn not Sanders. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #54

What a Bullshit title rbrnmw Apr 2016 #59

Consider the source. Codeine Apr 2016 #64

bouncing off the walls rbrnmw Apr 2016 #66

Bernie defended the Bush 'win' in Ohio 2004 J_J_ Apr 2016 #61

Link to the story would be nice. B Calm Apr 2016 #65

There is NO reason to believe Bernie was somehow the target of this. Adrahil Apr 2016 #68