2016 Postmortem

Chitown Kev

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75. Number 23, what shall we do?

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:50 AM

Mar 2016

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Why does Hillary do so poorly in the mid-west and west? [View all] morningfog Mar 2016 OP

Not following, the only state that voted in the West is Nevada itsrobert Mar 2016 #1

Colorado. morningfog Mar 2016 #4

Oh my gawd, if you include Colorado, you need to include Texas itsrobert Mar 2016 #13

My gawd. Include what you want. She's been stomped on lots of states. WHY? morningfog Mar 2016 #15

What, She won Nevada and Texas, Bernie won Colorado itsrobert Mar 2016 #16

Why does she lose so badly elsewhere? morningfog Mar 2016 #25

It's not. Do better math. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #29

Bernie won the Latino vote by huge margins in Colorado. Your point? pinebox Mar 2016 #98

Small sample size itsrobert Mar 2016 #99

lol uh huh, goalposts moved much? pinebox Mar 2016 #100

The Western United States as defined by the Census Bureau: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #91

I live in California, thank you. itsrobert Mar 2016 #97

Texas = the south MillennialDem Mar 2016 #96

Texas is Deep Red South, enemy territory (aside from Austin). Will go GOP in GE. leveymg Mar 2016 #106

Texas is NOT the south. wildeyed Mar 2016 #116

Sanders was winning Nevada up until the last week before the caucus Samantha Mar 2016 #86

I don't think she can win a fair election. senz Mar 2016 #120

Neither do I Samantha Mar 2016 #122

All very fair questions. HubertHeaver Mar 2016 #2

NAFTA and the other bull shit free trade agreements.. yourout Mar 2016 #3

That makes sense. Could she carry Midwest swing states we need in GE? morningfog Mar 2016 #6

Maybe but I would not bet on it. yourout Mar 2016 #11

Michigan is still hurting from Nafta, and it wasn't long ago she said that TPP is the goldstandard putitinD Mar 2016 #35

In the West, even the Republican Western states (like Utah), the minority Democrats are Progressive. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #5

Minority Dem from Utah here Hydra Mar 2016 #19

Doesn't FT. WORTH TX call itself the "gateway to the west?" or "Where the West begins?" MADem Mar 2016 #7

Colorado? morningfog Mar 2016 #10

Weed? MADem Mar 2016 #28

"More research is needed" Aha Mar 2016 #39

She's behind Sanders and ahead of Warren. As I said. MADem Mar 2016 #81

Cannabis reform does not need the SCOTUS, it needs Congress or a strong Executive branch, AG and Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #93

Yes, guns is part of it Rebkeh Mar 2016 #14

But Hillary Gwhittey Mar 2016 #33

Her official policy is "anti-gun," the rest doesn't matter. Minds close tight after that. Nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #59

The St. Louis arch is the symbolic "gateway to the west" landmark loyalsister Mar 2016 #18

Did you click on the link I provided? Did you read what it said? MADem Mar 2016 #22

Your post said "Gateway to the West" loyalsister Mar 2016 #61

Bernie won Austin, San Marcos, and Bryan/College Station. All college towns. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #69

Unsurprising, really. Hillary won the state. 65-33. MADem Mar 2016 #80

She won my county 80-17. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #83

I don't do yard signs or bumper stickers. MADem Mar 2016 #84

The Western United States as defined by the Census Bureau Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #92

I can't speak to the others but Rebkeh Mar 2016 #8

She does terribly with white voters. reformist2 Mar 2016 #9

It's not racial. She does terribly with Progressive voters. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #12

^This Hydra Mar 2016 #20

Yep. It is because voters realize she is not a progressive. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #21

Others don't understand what she really stand for Hydra Mar 2016 #23

One of my friends is like that too. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #26

It's the media's fault Hydra Mar 2016 #31

You guys do realize that snarkily repeating the "low information voters meme" is probably the MADem Mar 2016 #32

I didn't tell her she was a low information voter, though undoubtedly she is. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #38

I'm sorry, I can't help it that Team Hill is counting on people not to check her record Hydra Mar 2016 #42

It makes perfect sense, given her record. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #46

Ever stop to think there are people who LIKE her record? MADem Mar 2016 #51

There's something for every one, on each side of the issues. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #55

Yes I assume her supporters LIKE her years of crapping on LGBT rights for Jesus..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #94

Ahhh, there it is. A double down! MADem Mar 2016 #48

*Laughs* Hydra Mar 2016 #63

I care why? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #53

This^ Gwhittey Mar 2016 #44

Welcome to the Party :) Hydra Mar 2016 #56

Bernie is the one making promises redstateblues Mar 2016 #30

Bernie is doing something more damaging than that, in a positive way Hydra Mar 2016 #37

You are arguing with a I asuume Gwhittey Mar 2016 #58

No, this is kind of a new thing here Hydra Mar 2016 #70

And Hillary isn't promising anything at all. reformist2 Mar 2016 #88

Guns nt DURHAM D Mar 2016 #17

Do you really think that's it? If so, she'd do poorly in GE. morningfog Mar 2016 #27

Well maybe not. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #62

That's certainly one reason she'll motivate the GOP base like no other. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #103

She can't carry squat in the general Lorien Mar 2016 #24

The last Democrat that ran on raising taxes redstateblues Mar 2016 #34

He Hillary has lost by big margins across the county. morningfog Mar 2016 #41

She won more delegates than Bernie today redstateblues Mar 2016 #43

Yet lost by big margins where she lost. You should be asking why. morningfog Mar 2016 #52

I would post Gwhittey Mar 2016 #66

The Midwest got fucked by Bill Clinton that's why...NAFTA decimated my hometown and my homestate. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #36

Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma are the "Plains" states Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #40

Bernie does well where more people have access to internet. OZi Mar 2016 #45

Is this a fucking joke? Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #50

5% "honesty and trustworthy" plus 2% "shares my values" OZi Mar 2016 #57

Then how do you account for the polls in Massachusetts Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #64

New Hampshire: "Honest and Trustworthy" - 34% OZi Mar 2016 #85

This whole thread is a bunch of people desperately and nervously high fiving each other Number23 Mar 2016 #65

Well callling someone ill informed Gwhittey Mar 2016 #68

And Bernie can do no wrong? his campaign cannot possibly be fucked up Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #71

Yeah, I saw your post downthread whining that Clinton is KILLING it with minority voters because Number23 Mar 2016 #72

Number 23, what shall we do? Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #75

Boy, you know what to do... Number23 Mar 2016 #78

I don't think that (false) accusation of racism has much to do with it. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #104

No offense but I've seen enough of your posts on race here to not really have much interest Number23 Mar 2016 #118

Bless their hearts consciouslocs Mar 2016 #87

Everyone has access to the Internet these days. MineralMan Mar 2016 #101

100%? OZi Mar 2016 #119

Sanders does better in rural areas, Hillary does better in urban ones oberliner Mar 2016 #121

We will see how things look after Michigan book_worm Mar 2016 #47

Why can't Hillary win in those states though? morningfog Mar 2016 #54

Hillary is up by 25 points in Michigan Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #67

Polls of the land line type are very inaccurate. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #73

I'm sorry, Hillary is gonna crush Bernie in Michigan Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #76

Yea odd isn't it Gwhittey Mar 2016 #60

She got David Brock who is more slimy that any swiftboater. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #102

Wrong question: why does she do so poorly against the GOP? longship Mar 2016 #49

Bernie polls a little better now creeksneakers2 Mar 2016 #74

We'll see. longship Mar 2016 #79

Sanders does better in states with BainsBane Mar 2016 #77

Great question thereismore Mar 2016 #82

it was wise to ask these questions before Ohio, Michigan and Illinois DrDan Mar 2016 #89

Thank you. morningfog Mar 2016 #95

What are you talking about? She won Nevada and Texas.. DCBob Mar 2016 #90

Look up-thread. To make the OP's theory work, Texas is no longer in the West. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #111

LOL.. DCBob Mar 2016 #112

Bank failures and crooked bankers are the enemy!!! Mopar151 Mar 2016 #105

"Poorly" does not describe her vote-getting ability in any state. n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #107

NH, VT, OK, KS were very poor performances. CO and MN ERE NOT GOOD. morningfog Mar 2016 #108

Neither does "poor." n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #109

I guess you have not looked at the results or just don't understand? morningfog Mar 2016 #110

Still not poor. Orsino Mar 2016 #113

Lol. Whatever dude. morningfog Mar 2016 #115

They have a better education system . . simple as that. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #114

False premise. wildeyed Mar 2016 #117