Skepticism, Science & Pseudoscience

DavidDvorkin

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21. It is not necessary to rebut woo with facts

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 26, 2012, 02:33 PM

Mar 2012

It is necessary for those pushing woo to offer some facts.

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Supposedly, elephants trekked to a house to mourn a human [View all] DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 OP

I don't know the details of this story... but I wish I'd never read your post... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #1

Because I expressed skepticism? DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #2

because you went out of your way to be ugly and derisive. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #8

I intended to be dismissive and scornful DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #10

Part of being a skeptic is being willing to point out when something is questionable, EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #3

That's exactly it DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #4

So...emotions trump truth? MineralMan Mar 2012 #13

Since when does rudeness & incivility equal truth? hlthe2b Mar 2012 #15

Since you're in this particular group. MineralMan Mar 2012 #16

No... "woo" gets rebutted with facts not by being nasty and demeaning to others. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #17

I'm appalled that so many people MineralMan Mar 2012 #18

If you don't have facts to support your case then this becomes nothing more than hlthe2b Mar 2012 #19

What you see on the Latest page is up to you. MineralMan Mar 2012 #20

It is YOU who is apparently complaining that 'non-group members reply to posts here... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #22

No, I'm not complaining at all. MineralMan Mar 2012 #25

Debunking is fine... Extreme ridiculing and mocking without substantive discussion is .... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #26

I think you should re-read the OP. MineralMan Mar 2012 #29

I went back to reread the OP, and i have to say that I don't see what... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #70

It is not necessary to rebut woo with facts DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #21

Which BOTH sides should do rspectfully and civilly... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #23

Should I be respectful of Mitch McConnell when he says DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #24

Since when is Mitch McConnell a DU member? hlthe2b Mar 2012 #27

It's not at all a straw man DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #28

Mocking and calling out other DU members with intense derision is the issue. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #30

Calling a post absurd is not what calling out a DU member means DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #31

Sorry that you can't be straight forward enough to acknowledge your own behavior. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #32

You're going around in circles and repeating insults DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #33

FWIW... uppityperson Mar 2012 #34

Thanks for posting that. I appreciate it. MineralMan Mar 2012 #35

Someone's going apeshit with the alert button. Ian David Mar 2012 #37

I suppose so. Never mind. MineralMan Mar 2012 #39

You are welcome. I have started doing this, if jury comes back "leave", let the poster know uppityperson Mar 2012 #46

I alerted on you. I lost. I was not wrong. You're being cruel to people for no discernable reason DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #47

Yes, I know you did. MineralMan Mar 2012 #48

You know that I did, because I told you I did. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #49

Thanks for your reply. MineralMan Mar 2012 #50

"earnest students"? Silent3 Mar 2012 #51

I think they're honest people expressing genuine feeling about a story they read DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #52

A very genuine, honest manifestation of engaging keyboards before engaging brains Silent3 Mar 2012 #53

I know what I define as cruel, and I saw it with MM and another poster DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #54

It's people ever-so-gently treading on this kind of fuzzy-headed thinking... Silent3 Mar 2012 #55

Then you're part of the problem and not part of the solution EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #56

defending reason and sanity is a far cry from riduculing someone for what they believe DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #57

What you don't seem to get... EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #58

and what you don't seem to get, is that I'm using MM's own terminology: ridicule DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #61

There's a rather marked difference between EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #66

Just can't let that go, can you? MineralMan Mar 2012 #59

Why would I let this go when you've invited me several times to peruse your FR posts? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #60

No. I don't care if your post stays visible. I don't alert on attacks against myself. MineralMan Mar 2012 #62

This isn't off-topic at all DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #63

Look. No context. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to discuss this with you any MineralMan Mar 2012 #64

Then look at the FULL PAGES so you don't lose any CONTEXT DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #65

I was Juror #4. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #36

Well, in the case of this thread, the woo came from a GD post, MineralMan Mar 2012 #40

BeliefNet, Natural News and Prison Planet poison the blogosphere. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #41

Yup. That's my opinion, as well. MineralMan Mar 2012 #43

You did good. I read that thread with the same thoughts. immoderate Mar 2012 #5

Because everything is, like, connected to everything else. DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #6

Although elephants DO communicate over vast distances using infrasound. Ian David Mar 2012 #42

Dude, it's like all quantum and stuff. MadrasT Mar 2012 #45

Don't discard this just because it comes from beliefnet. I heard from a friend of a friend dimbear Mar 2012 #7

Hah! DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #9

LOL!! n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #38

If you look really closely, you'll see angels accompanying the MineralMan Mar 2012 #44

What grinds my gears... MadrasT Mar 2012 #11

It's that missing link called critical thinking. MineralMan Mar 2012 #14

What separates us from the believers Ron Obvious Mar 2012 #12

My (now deceased) cat was depressed for a month after my dog died. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #67

I've seen depression in the dogs and cats we've owned DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #68

Very true, sounds like an exaggeration to me. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #71

I figured the story was harmless if incredible. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #69

Maybe it’s not true, frogmarch Mar 2012 #72