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Boston_Chemist

(256 posts)
3. What is wrong with plain old water?
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 02:59 PM
Dec 2011

Why must it be fluoridated? If people want sparkling teeth, they can go get fluoride treatments at the dentist.

Fluorine is a fairly toxic ion, it has a high affinity for calcium, as expressed in the phenomenal stability of the CaF2 molecule. Interestingly, the ion channels responsible for nerve signalling rely on the Ca(2+) ion for the work it does.

The range of concentrations in which F(-) ion is safe for consumption is quite small, and a reflection of this can be found on the warning found on the containers of fluoridated toothpaste. An issue that no one should ignore is a problem stemming from careless fluoridation, as the possibility of getting an aliquot of *highly* fluoridated water from the municipal water supply is very high. Cases of fluorosis are not unknown (common, actually), and most stem from the poor quality control happening at city level.

Having worked in the pharmaceutical industry, I am an actual chemist, I can say that I am intimately aware of the issues surrounding mixing efficiencies. It is very, very difficult to prove to the FDA that your drug is evenly dispersed in your mixing container, and engineers spend entire careers on this problem alone.

Now, without delving into conspiracy-land, is your dismissiveness towards legitimate concerns actually that informed?

Oh My Lack of God uriel1972 Dec 2011 #1
There are some here on DU! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #2
What is wrong with plain old water? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #3
So you aren't aware TZ Dec 2011 #4
Yes, I am quite aware of those studies. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #5
Please don't bother to get all the facts about Dental Fluorosis, nor bother to listen to the .. MarkCharles Dec 2011 #6
Information, in brochure format, is a way of spoonfeeding people. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #7
I get it, you don't argue from epidemiological grounds, you argue based upon MarkCharles Dec 2011 #8
Are you really simply cutting and pasting a webpage onto your post? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #9
epidemic of fluorosis? TZ Dec 2011 #19
Read my previous posts. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #22
I do know a bit about dilutions TZ Dec 2011 #17
I was expecting this sort of fallacy, sooner or later. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #23
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #10
You don't seem skeptical enough. nt. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #11
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. n/t laconicsax Dec 2011 #12
Government calls for the reduction of fluoride levels by nearly 50% Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #13
Yes, they did. Do you understand their rationale? laconicsax Dec 2011 #14
Oh, I thought it had to do with the toxicity of the ion itself. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #15
Depends on the Mercury. laconicsax Dec 2011 #16
What is it with the english language that makes it so difficult for some to understand it? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #21
You brought up Mercury. If you don't like the results, you have only yourself to blame. n/t laconicsax Dec 2011 #24
Your posts in these threads have a distinctive lack of content in them. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #25
Ooh! Another term you don't seem to know the meaning of. laconicsax Dec 2011 #26
There goes your bad English comprehension - again. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #27
And how many conferences on water fluoridation are there? laconicsax Dec 2011 #29
23% with Fluorosis? More like nearly 40%. Did you even read the CDC study? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #30
So why do YOU think you're arguing against the consensus? laconicsax Dec 2011 #31
What is the European consensus on Fluoridation? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #32
And what makes the US different. laconicsax Dec 2011 #33
I am not here to educate you or entertain your conspiracy theories. n.t. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #34
Then why are you here? laconicsax Dec 2011 #35
You actually appear to be ignoring any and all data. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #36
I see you can't take what you dish out. laconicsax Dec 2011 #37
It's all good, so long as you stop believing this "Fluoridation is Good" nonsense. n.t. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #38
You've yet to show that it IS nonsense. laconicsax Dec 2011 #39
Hmm. HuckleB Dec 2011 #40
Be nice. Our water isn't fluoridated--our PBFs are safe. laconicsax Dec 2011 #42
Yup. HuckleB Dec 2011 #43
You've made some statements in this post. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #51
A chemist not understanding doses? TZ Dec 2011 #18
Fluorine is not the same as Mercury. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #20
A couple of hints for you: Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #28
Pssssssst. HuckleB Dec 2011 #41
You have to love the 2nd comment there! n/t laconicsax Dec 2011 #44
It is a beauty! -eom- HuckleB Dec 2011 #45
Let me repost that foul-mouthed "thing of beauty": Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #46
Wooosh! laconicsax Dec 2011 #47
And, again with your posts that lack any content. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #49
Of course I am. What else would I be doing in a skeptics group? laconicsax Dec 2011 #50
Yes, what are you doing in a skeptics group? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #52
Pro-Fluoridation crankery is also an issue. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #48
Locking EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #53
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