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Croney

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4. Yes, I certainly sympathize with their loss, but

Mon Jan 1, 2024, 01:49 PM

Jan 2024

if she'd have pulled through, it would have been called a miracle due to prayer. She didn't pull through, but no one is going to say that prayers failed.

The logic of magical thinking.

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My evangelical cousin is at death's door. [View all] Croney Jan 2024 OP

I wonder if any of the prayer circle lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #1

You gotta wonder if any of them would slightlv Jan 2024 #35

prayer is like this... Shakespeare called it. lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #37

no prayer circles have ever beaten death in the long run. rurallib Jan 2024 #2

No prayer circle has ever accomplished anything PJMcK Jan 2024 #5

For a person of faith, having people pray for you helps lessen stress. TigressDem Jan 2024 #36

Thanks! Militant athiests are as arrogant as any Christian nationalist - and I'm not even a big god guy. johnnyplankton Jan 2024 #55

Most atheists I have met aren't militant about it and logic is something they respect. TigressDem Jan 2024 #81

Thank you. stage left Jan 2024 #63

Well said. TigressDem Jan 2024 #82

That's a reasonable point PJMcK Jan 2024 #69

I'm often of two minds myself. TigressDem Jan 2024 #83

I'm really sorry you have to put up with being teased. Trueblue Texan Feb 2024 #96

Actually some studies clearly show that religious Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #87

You did not read my full response to OP - IF the prayer allows a person to let go of stress, it helps. TigressDem Jan 2024 #89

Having people pray for some adds more stress. Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #91

"Positive therapeutic benefits of intercessory prayer in a cardiac care unit" TheRickles Jan 2024 #51

Well, I've heard (and read) the exact opposite... robbob Jan 2024 #62

Yes, you're right - that's how science proceeds. TheRickles Jan 2024 #65

Sugar pills k55f5r Jan 2024 #66

In these prayer studies, people don't know which group they're in - the prayed-for group, or the control group. TheRickles Jan 2024 #68

Exactly prayers can be stressful for some Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #88

Nothing works in all cases. TigressDem Jan 2024 #84

Witch doctors also got positive results. (in their patients that did not die) Chainfire Jan 2024 #79

But why pray to be saved from death when it's supposed to bring eternal glory? Trueblue Texan Feb 2024 #95

I was in a bereavment support group 12 years ago after my wife died. Girard442 Jan 2024 #3

Yes, I certainly sympathize with their loss, but Croney Jan 2024 #4

I've seen it over and over with COVIDiots. If they make it, it was God and the prayers. No thanks to the brewens Jan 2024 #77

Excellent observation about grief (n/t) PJMcK Jan 2024 #6

Me to. After my wife died, I also found solace and compassion in a bereavement group. And yes, being with others... machoneman Jan 2024 #50

One thing that sucks about being human is losing loved ones. Hurts no matter what. TigressDem Jan 2024 #86

In my area, all the bereavement groups were all Christian Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #90

I Guess They Didn't Pray Hard Enough Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #7

My Talibangelical mother had a grand mal seizure and her doctor told her she couldn't OMGWTF Jan 2024 #61

Glad your brother put you mom's & the public's safety ahead of being polite & going along with myths Attilatheblond Jan 2024 #64

God answers all prayers. cloudbase Jan 2024 #8

Maybe God just answers "Who IS this?" FailureToCommunicate Jan 2024 #15

We're sorry. The number you have dialed was never and is not today, in service. jaxexpat Jan 2024 #18

or the number showed up on God's cellphone as "suspected spam" DBoon Jan 2024 #26

New Angels Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #72

Sorry vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #9

I always ask who has the best batting average. Probatim Jan 2024 #10

Sorry to hear that she is gravely ill, however: TeamProg Jan 2024 #11

Martin Luther must be rolling in his grave over contemporary mega churches DBoon Jan 2024 #27

Hey you should add Aimee Semple McPherson NJCher Jan 2024 #76

You are not worthy of God's healing mercy. Many others are. (God's will) (Called you home) keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #12

Practicing Episcopalian here bernieb Jan 2024 #13

Same here wryter2000 Jan 2024 #45

I can't explain it therefore god. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #47

And yet during my time of watching not one human tradition or belief system has demonstrated that it can tap into that HelpImSurrounded Jan 2024 #53

It's there NJCher Jan 2024 #78

And... I've just gotten word that she has received her heavenly reward. Croney Jan 2024 #14

Which, if I understand the theology correctly, she would have gotten any way. progressoid Jan 2024 #28

Sorry to hear. James48 Jan 2024 #16

Praying, wishing, casting spells JoseBalow Jan 2024 #17

Depends what you ask for Ksout Jan 2024 #19

All I know is almost every pwb Jan 2024 #20

"jesus crist would you hurry up"? ret5hd Jan 2024 #40

No it was always pleasurable. pwb Jan 2024 #43

it seems important to you that we have this information. ret5hd Jan 2024 #71

Or maybe she has completed her mission on this planet judesedit Jan 2024 #21

No, there is no joy. Her family is devastated. Croney Jan 2024 #24

There will be joy with her soul family. I'm sure her family here will miss her judesedit Jan 2024 #73

And the Easter Bunny flies at midnight. Croney Jan 2024 #74

Lol judesedit Jan 2024 #75

Seriously? Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #48

Who do you think they're praying to? RedSpartan Jan 2024 #22

People who are in good health are terrified of death Warpy Jan 2024 #23

Yes I agree, it's a fine line. With my own mother, who died at 98, Croney Jan 2024 #25

I had an armed truce with my own RCC parents Warpy Jan 2024 #31

I am in good, make that excellent, health, and I am not terrified of death. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2024 #44

Would it be wrong to form a prayer circle to stop Putin's heart? Frasier Balzov Jan 2024 #29

It would be ineffective. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #49

I think sometimes things just happen DBoon Jan 2024 #30

Adenocarcinoma is a broad term for Lifeafter70 Jan 2024 #32

She died this afternoon. I had never heard that she was ill. Croney Jan 2024 #33

My condolances Lifeafter70 Jan 2024 #38

I am sorry about your cousin. LoisB Jan 2024 #34

I hope she is feeling no pain Skittles Jan 2024 #39

She died this afternoon, so her pain is over which is good. Croney Jan 2024 #41

OH my. How are you doing? TigressDem Jan 2024 #85

May your family have peace. colorado_ufo Jan 2024 #42

I like omnipotent beings that get it right the first time. czarjak Jan 2024 #46

When gawd wads die it's gawd's grand design. LakeArenal Jan 2024 #52

You guys know that Martin Luther King Jr. was an American Baptist minister, right? johnnyplankton Jan 2024 #54

This is the Atheists and Agnostics forum so yes, we can absolutely disagree with Croney Jan 2024 #56

When my mother was within a week of her death, she asked me no_hypocrisy Jan 2024 #57

Brilliant. I will endeavour to remember that! . . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #59

Perfect Farmer-Rick Jan 2024 #93

I usually defer to family wishes in these situations. NNadir Jan 2024 #58

"Healed in heaven" The Blue Flower Jan 2024 #60

So sorry for your loss. bernieb Jan 2024 #67

So very sorry for your loss. May you find peace and comfort in whatever niyad Jan 2024 #70

Holding your breath is NOT a good idea. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2024 #80

The Lord needs her home? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #92

When I was working in home health, my head would nearly explode... Trueblue Texan Feb 2024 #94

That reminds me of this classic joke JoseBalow Feb 2024 #97

That's terrible! Trueblue Texan Feb 2024 #98