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localroger

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44. But that's not "religion." That's Christianity and Islam.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

Even Judaism doesn't formalize the idea of an afterlife, and while a number of religions encouraged their warriors by teaching that they would be glorified in the afterlife if they died in battle, even that isn't universal and the idea of something like Hell is quite rare outside of Christianity (and many believe it was bolted on to a synthesis of early Christianities around the time of the Council of Nicea few of which had the idea of Hell either).

The original comment to which I replied was positing that religion was invented to control people. That is demonstrably not accurate, because religion existed for tens of thousands of years before people started using it that way. It is more that the need of empires to control people drove religion in that direction than that religion itself drove people in that direction.

Religion is both much older and much more diverse than Christianity. Thinking Christianity is typical of religion would be like thinking a Rolls Royce is typical of cars.

I Was An Atheist By Third Grade [View all] ItsjustMe Mar 2022 OP
My Peeps! It was 7th grade for me, sitting in biology class Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2022 #1
Religion Cherokee100 Mar 2022 #63
I like that Edie Brickell song verse... Omnipresent Mar 2022 #2
Philosophy is a walk on a slippery rock. Religion is a lie in the fog. - Edie Brickell ItsjustMe Mar 2022 #6
I'm not aware of too many things..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #31
Good ol' Dallas girl Ishoutandscream2 Mar 2022 #54
I was elementary school age,,,, KarenS Mar 2022 #3
Yep, me too. CrispyQ Mar 2022 #7
My brother-in-law MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #29
I have successfully killed God... Omnipresent Mar 2022 #59
it took me until about the age of 18. barbtries Mar 2022 #4
When some kids a few years older than me told me that Santa wasn't real, it was like dominoes. CrispyQ Mar 2022 #5
Ditto. People who think it's cute don't remember localroger Mar 2022 #15
My doofus sister-in-law believes MOMFUDSKI Mar 2022 #32
The atrocities of the chosen. You're in trouble when your god hates the same people you do. mjvpi Mar 2022 #53
Same here, but I cracked the Santa code myself. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #64
"Religion is a blind man looking for a black cat that isn't in a pitch black room, robbob Mar 2022 #8
Jonah living in whale's belly for three days was a stretch for me early on. czarjak Mar 2022 #9
Are you sure? There would be plenty to eat... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2022 #13
Breathing might be a bigger problem /nt localroger Mar 2022 #18
Or the, ahem, smell. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2022 #21
Did you not see edhopper Mar 2022 #48
It doesn't say whale..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #34
The biggest fish on Earth edhopper Mar 2022 #49
I'm sure... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #57
Same, right around 3rd grade, coming out of our church. Jon King Mar 2022 #10
Are there any die-hard atheist Republicans? dchill Mar 2022 #11
I abandoned religion years ago SCantiGOP Mar 2022 #12
Thank you wryter2000 Mar 2022 #33
And you're hangin' out in the Atheist forum ... why? lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #65
Someone explain how separation of church and state allows churches to not have to pay taxes? Jetheels Mar 2022 #14
born agnostic, atheist by 2nd grade cynical_idealist Mar 2022 #16
I suspect religion was invented to control slaves. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #17
Not really localroger Mar 2022 #23
Religion had to start somewhere at some point, converting delusion into institution. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #25
Definitely a form of control. SergeStorms Mar 2022 #36
But that's not "religion." That's Christianity and Islam. localroger Mar 2022 #44
+1 Mosby Mar 2022 #52
We know that religion was at an advanced state of development 30,000 years ago localroger Mar 2022 #41
We know that people who believe in religion interpret the past as having religion. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #45
More like modern religious people wouldn't recognize it localroger Mar 2022 #47
So, you are able to see into the past to watch these rituals? L. Coyote Mar 2022 #68
Anthropology is a thing localroger Mar 2022 #71
Anthropologists are a thing, L. Coyote Mar 2022 #76
Well I won't argue with your experience in the field localroger Mar 2022 #77
Every ancient building is a temple; every ancient artwork is a god. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #66
Yep, every earthwork is defensive if you have a militaristic outlook. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #69
Just popped in to say moreland01 Mar 2022 #19
Just popped in to say moreland01 Mar 2022 #20
I was 14 when I asked my Mom Dr. T Mar 2022 #22
I struggle with this issue. plimsoll Mar 2022 #24
Greatest bullshit story ever told... AdamGG Mar 2022 #26
Took me a while mountain grammy Mar 2022 #27
Thank you I'm sure there are many more that believe this way. I have since an early age. scarytomcat Mar 2022 #28
I'm Christian wryter2000 Mar 2022 #30
No problem jonstl08 Mar 2022 #38
Totally agree wryter2000 Mar 2022 #72
It was fourth grade for myself. I owe my uncle for that, he was the wise mentor in my life. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #35
For me when my mother passed away jonstl08 Mar 2022 #37
When I turned 8, I think I was still trying to believe it Warpy Mar 2022 #39
Pardon me, 3825-87867 Mar 2022 #40
My Grandmother was a Baptist who I lived with for 4 years. Bird Lady Mar 2022 #42
Atheism as a religion -- how interesting! Taraman Mar 2022 #43
Tim Minchin! umroman Mar 2022 #46
Agnostic in College edhopper Mar 2022 #50
Self delete my post... Peacetrain Mar 2022 #51
I liked your previous post, Peacetrain Taraman Mar 2022 #56
Believe it or not, there are people who consider themselves "religious" Taraman Mar 2022 #55
Cast off the shoe, VGNonly Mar 2022 #58
Bookmarking and Thanks for posting! flying_wahini Mar 2022 #60
I never believed Random Boomer Mar 2022 #61
My crushes on Linda and Jodie just got even worse. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #62
If you are making your decision about whether God exists MadameButterfly Mar 2022 #67
I just went on the evidence. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #70
Oh yeah, "evidence" Taraman Mar 2022 #73
Sure. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #74
THE evidence? MadameButterfly Apr 2022 #79
I really don't need to spend my time hunting ghosts. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #80
I don't expect you to agree MadameButterfly Apr 2022 #81
Likewise. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #82
I actually read the KJV by the time I was 9. haele Mar 2022 #75
Great minds think alike Bayard Mar 2022 #78
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