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lindysalsagal

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Sat Apr 27, 2019, 11:56 AM Apr 2019

"Lamb of god." Ok. I've finally seen how these religions got started: Pagan Sacrifice [View all]

It sometimes takes a change in perspective to see the forest through the trees. I've had an epiphany:

I never understood why Jesus had to be sacrificed and why they say "Take away the sins of the world." It never made any sense to me. We, who live in the 20th and 21st centuries no longer practice sacrifice. Ok we pay our religious institutions, but we don't believe we're buying favor from god directly when we do it. We don't go to church and throw a hundred dollar bill in the basket to help insure a great business deal goes through. Or that a woman will fall in love with us, or that we'll have better growing weather. We really don't.

But early christians did. It is a pagan requirement to make sacrifices to the pagan gods to garner their favor for our personal needs. Ok, I have to admit, people pray before ball games, and when they win, some athletes say, "Thank you, god!" and try to give god credit. Same thing happens at award ceremonies.

But that's really not associated with sacrifice.

The reason judaism and paganism gave way to christianity was the great one-size-fits-all god sacrifice. This was the first god who made is so simple:

1. Only one god, and he's largely benevolent if you follow his simple rules, and all rules applied to everyone, so, preaching to the crowd worked, since everyone followed the same rules. Pagans had no such preaching because there were no rules, only selfish and malevolent, unpredictable, screwy gods.

2. 10 rules. That's it. Fit on a home-made chunk of clay, or easily written out on a scrap of parchment, or in church windows.

3.This is the first god to do his own sacrifice for YOU! Incredible! He sacrificed his own beloved son so we wouldn't have to keep burning up perfectly good livestock. WHAT A DEAL!!!

Maybe everyone else already got here, but I've been reading some novels and watching some viking shows, and have become accustomed to their way of thinking (don't worry, I don't buy any of it, it's just fun to hear them trash christianity). And it suddenly dawned on me that early christians demanded this idea of sacrifice: Sacrifice is entirely pagan, so, early christians needed one, too. But they needed a really, really big one. A final one, that would end all the routine little ones: They needed god's own beloved son to die, to make it sell.

Throw in forgiveness of sins, and eternal life after death, and how could it lose? Honestly! It's the most brilliant bit of marketing in the history of humanity!

When you look at it with 2nd century eyes, christianity FINALLY makes sense! Jesus is the mega-pagan sacrifice! It's all pagan, and the believers have no clue, because paganism is largely forgotten these days.

It also makes sense when you hear about sacrifices in the early bible. Didn't god tell abraham to kill his son, and he almost did? I'm not schooled at all in the bible, but I think there were lots of sacrifices going on. It was what you did in those days.

So, christianity is pagan-lite. How nice!



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But we still sacrifice what's most precious to us. Dale Neiburg Apr 2019 #1
Yes, but it's not the same mind-set. Pagans had one very specific favor in mind and they were lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #3
I also believe that monotheism appeals to cilla4progress Apr 2019 #2
Yes. This new god of rules seemed easier to contend with. One got a better sense of control lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #4
Which is the real reason localroger Apr 2019 #5
Exactly! Much more stable. He could read the handwriting on the wall. lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #9
instead of lambs, christians sacrificed pagans by the millions nt msongs Apr 2019 #6
God sacrificed himself to himself Buzz cook Apr 2019 #7
You're right: The holy trinity stuff is so confusing. But to sacrifice your own son! In those days, lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #8
Before the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple, animal sacrifice comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #10
Absolutely. I believe you had to pay the jewish priest to do the sacrifice, too. But it shows lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #11
For some silly reason, humans have been projecting vlyons Apr 2019 #12
Ancient Near Eastern religion practiced regular human sacrifice yellowdogintexas Apr 2019 #13
Exactly: move the populace from the old religions to the new. lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #14
Will need to return to this tomorrow rurallib Apr 2019 #15
K & R - great post! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2019 #16
Thank you! We really don't know anything about paganism, but it's the point of it all! lindysalsagal Apr 2019 #17
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