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Atheists & Agnostics

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts) Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:51 PM Sep 2016

We abandon religious beliefs, but we cling to religious logic. [View all]

Even those of us who leave religious beliefs behind will far too often, in my opinion, still use the same exact logic to justify other beliefs. These other false beliefs can be at least as dangerous as religious beliefs. Please question your beliefs.

Thought exercise: without using religious logic, make an argument that the US, or any other country, exists without using the same arguments religious people use to demonstrate the truth of their religious beliefs.

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We abandon religious beliefs, but we cling to religious logic. [View all] ZombieHorde Sep 2016 OP

You're still on that? trotsky Sep 2016 #1

Visit Saudi Arabia and say Allah is bullshit and see how imaginary gods work for you. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #3

Yes, surprise surprise, words mean things to humans. trotsky Sep 2016 #5

Excellent questions. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #9

Well, an experiment you can try is to obtain a weapon, and charge at someone. trotsky Sep 2016 #10

I live in an area called "Montana." ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #13

You were looking for experimental data. trotsky Sep 2016 #25

I'm trying to get people to see the absurdity of the violence we support. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #28

When you use the word "imaginary" to describe countries or governments... trotsky Sep 2016 #31

Where do abstractions exist? ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #33

OK well you have fun then. n/t trotsky Sep 2016 #35

I have been. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #36

Ever notice a bunch of birds on an electric wire? Freelancer Sep 2016 #16

I gotta say tkmorris Sep 2016 #2

If we were Zen Buddhists I would take that as a compliment. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #4

I believe the concepts exist... uriel1972 Sep 2016 #6

People act as if God exists, ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #7

If you reduce god to a concept created by humans... uriel1972 Sep 2016 #8

I wonder how many who would be unhappy with the comparison for their own god(s) ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #14

God is arbitrary & imaginary, but at times useful -- like the yellow painted lines in a parking lot Freelancer Sep 2016 #18

Ha! ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #22

I never acquired a taste for religion...no one taught me anything about it.... Tikki Sep 2016 #11

God describes something completely imaginary Lordquinton Sep 2016 #12

Very good! ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #17

It has my name on the door Lordquinton Sep 2016 #19

I'm simply asking for evidence. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #21

It's assigned to me Lordquinton Sep 2016 #23

Do you think social contracts exist outside of the imagination? ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #27

Is god on a map? AlbertCat Sep 2016 #15

I'm trying, with my drunk brain, to make an argument ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #20

You seem to be making the observation that both national borders and god(s) are... NeoGreen Sep 2016 #24

We allow/support violence against those who cross imaginary lines without paperwork. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #29

Ahhh...sure..ok... NeoGreen Sep 2016 #32

I love D&D and I would definitely check out that church. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #34

Oh, that's easy. DetlefK Sep 2016 #26

Some countries have many languages, cultures, and values. ZombieHorde Sep 2016 #30