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Silent3

(15,909 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 09:07 AM Mar 2016

How well do the much-touted similarities of the Jesus story to other myths hold up? [View all]

I ran into to this Cracked article yesterday: 6 Famous Documentaries That Were Shockingly Full of Crap

It started out by taking "Supersize Me" to task. Then "Waiting for 'Superman'". Then Bill Maher's "Religulous".

I'd hardly be shocked if Maher got a few facts wrong, but the thrust of the article's disagreement with "Religulous" was something I have to admit I've bought into over the past few years: that the Jesus story has a lot of mythical elements copied from preexisting myths.

All this "Jesus was copied from earlier religions" stuff has been going around the Internet for a while, and it will make you look awesome if you post it on a Halo message board, but none of it is true.


I'm willing to consider this, but then the author also says:

Oh, by the way, original sin is totally in the Bible, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a scholar who disagrees with the overwhelming evidence that a person (not necessarily a divine being) matching Jesus' description existed during his purported lifetime.


That you'd be "hard-pressed to find a scholar" who doesn't think Jesus is a real person isn't an argument that caries a lot of weight with me, since so many of those supposed scholars are dedicated Christians who tout some fairly unimpressive evidence.

I don't have a strong opinion myself about whether Jesus is mythologized history or historicized mythology. There's more than enough bullshit to go around either way. No one comes close, of course, to meeting the burden of evidence that Jesus is both real and divine and actually performed miracles and rose from the dead.

I should be willing to give up bad arguments, however, and if the alleged similarities between Jesus and Horus and Mithras, etc., don't hold up as well as have been thinking they do, so be it.

What say my fellow atheists on this matter?
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Well, personally I couldn't care less whether or not "Jesus" ever existed, historically. mr blur Mar 2016 #1
There is no doubt the overall themes of the story of Jesus are present in many mythologies. trotsky Mar 2016 #2
I had already been a non-believer for many years OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #14
The similarities between Jesus, Horus, et all, are the least of it Brainstormy Mar 2016 #3
My concern is simply about some of the details of the similarities... Silent3 Mar 2016 #4
Don't get started on Moses! AlbertCat Mar 2016 #6
I don't think.... AlbertCat Mar 2016 #5
Ever see edhopper Mar 2016 #7
It's a pointless argument over a meaningless claim. Christianity is based on Judaism muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #8
Overwhelming evidence? uriel1972 Mar 2016 #9
Jesus definitely existed. He's my 89th cousin's daughter's kid on my mom's side :) Freelancer Mar 2016 #10
Cookie Cutter Christs... NeoGreen Mar 2016 #11
I can't see any similarity in the Mithra Wikipedia article muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #12
I've encounted a lot of this before, I'm just wondering if the degree of similiarity... Silent3 Mar 2016 #13
So the comparisons of one bullshit story to a bunch of other bullshit stories don't hold up? Iggo Mar 2016 #15
It might be a "yawn" in the overall picture of "believe/don't believe"... Silent3 Mar 2016 #16
I got away from "believe/don't believe" and now I look at it as "real/not real". Iggo Mar 2016 #17
In the big picture, historical jesus is irrelevant. Supernatural jesus is a myth, end of story. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #18
From the viewpoint of a believer that might be having doubts, however... Silent3 Mar 2016 #19
So about the historical accuracy of the Jesus story. Promethean Mar 2016 #20
I'm certainly willing to believe that there might actually be a real man behind the myth... Silent3 Mar 2016 #21
The Romans! trotsky Mar 2016 #22
Depends on how you want it to "stand up" whatthehey Mar 2016 #23
I didn't watch the documentary so I'm not entirely sure about what some of the references are Major Nikon Mar 2016 #24
This isn't about matching a possible real-life Jesus, however... Silent3 Mar 2016 #25
I understood that part Major Nikon Mar 2016 #26
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