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Nitram

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19. Hi Muriel. Tell me what do you make of onager's language in regard to Armstrong:
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016

call her a "scholar," which she isn't. She's a former nun who failed to get a university degree
- I don't assume that an ex-nun (horrors!) couldn't be considered a scholar. One does not need a university degree to be scholar except in the mind of close-minded bigot.

Her M.O. is to pick a Deity-Of-The-Day
-Belittling an attempt to explain the origins and thought of the major religions of the world. Nice.

Armstrong hasn't yet met a deity she doesn't like
- What is the point here except to scornfully put down the process I described above

She vacuums up the research done by real scholars
-Do scholars vacuum up their study of original texts? Is the task of distilling and making sense of an entire religion in a clear and accurate way not scholarly?

then pukes it back up in a pile of her own bland metaphysical noodling.
- The use of the word "pukes" in this context is disgusting, and would only be used by someone who has a very angry axe to grind. "bland metaphysical doodling" is condescending and gratuitous description of what Armstrong does - unless you have a particular theistic or atheistic axe to grind.

Her brown-nosing of Islam was especially egregious.
- Getting inside a system of thought and moral behavior requires empathy and an open mind. Clearly onager has neither.

If she started mouthing off about how "we all worship the same God," she'd discover that's called apostasy. And carries the death penalty.
- Islam lived peacefully side-by-side other religions and systems of thought in their societies when the west was burning witches at the stake. Yes, there are some radically conservative aspects to some Islamic societies today. Let us not forget that Christianity committed crimes during the Inquisition and the "conquest" of Latin America. Every religion has been used by people to do good works and commit terrible crimes. Religions reflect the minds of the people who believe in them.

Armstrong and her buddies in the Sophisticated Theology racket
- Another "sophisticated" put down of anyone who studies theological topics.

I can explain the Trinity without a lifetime of meditation - it was an attempt by the early Xian Church to explain some unexplainable doctrines the Church itself had created. The Church failed utterly to rationalize a basically irrational idea, and declared the whole thing a Great Mystery.
-And so, at last, we come down to the truth behind onagers scathing attack on Armstrong. He believes religion is just a racket hidden in pseudo-mystery. He can't understand why anyone would want to try to understand the origins and beliefs that started major religion. I can't explain the anger and scorn, but I suspect there is a personal history that explains the depth of anger's revulsion.

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Never heard of it Cartoonist Feb 2016 #1
Karen Armstrong is a notable exponent of it muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #2
Armstrong = the Kim Kardashian of theology onager Feb 2016 #4
Onager, I beg to differ. Nitram Feb 2016 #7
Well, differ away! onager Feb 2016 #9
OK, onager, I get it. Analysis of religious thought makes you very, very angry. Nitram Feb 2016 #10
Actually, it makes me LMAO. onager Feb 2016 #15
You're use of language does not indicate amusement. It suggests deep anger. Nitram Feb 2016 #17
Anyone who says this: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #18
Hi Muriel. Tell me what do you make of onager's language in regard to Armstrong: Nitram Feb 2016 #19
Don't quit your day job. onager Feb 2016 #25
So posting on DU is your day job onager? Figures. nt Nitram Feb 2016 #29
And your use of language indicates projection. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #27
Using words like "puke" to describe a respected author's writing is projection? Nitram Feb 2016 #28
Yes. You should do that. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #30
This is the atheist and agnostic group awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #20
There is a difference between belief in God and the study of religious thought. Nitram Feb 2016 #24
to me, Karen Armstrong does not simply analyze religious thought RussBLib Feb 2016 #26
That's just the kind of doublethink that annoys me about Armstrong muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #13
Have you ever read E.M. Forster on Plotinus? onager Feb 2016 #16
"...just another guess..." Iggo Feb 2016 #12
Exactly. Iggo Feb 2016 #11
you're making him nonexistent. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #14
It's both sensible and silly whatthehey Feb 2016 #3
grasping at straws? RussBLib Feb 2016 #5
Isn't this already written into the rules of their game?... NeoGreen Feb 2016 #6
Great post! mountain grammy Feb 2016 #8
What is SITC? nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #21
stay in the closet (nt) NeoGreen Feb 2016 #22
Ah, thank you. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #23
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